Urgent: Mirroring of encryption software in the USA

2000-08-02 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Hi all I have another question on the Gibraltar firewall distribution. It is put together in Austria, but I already have a mirror site from which I do not know if it is inside the USA. What is the legal situation at the moment ? Is it possible to export software from the USA by download it from a

Re: Urgent: Mirroring of encryption software in the USA

2000-08-02 Thread Jens Müller
- Original Message - From: Rene Mayrhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-legal@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 2:44 PM Subject: Urgent: Mirroring of encryption software in the USA Hi all I have another question on the Gibraltar firewall distribution. It is put

Re: Gibraltar

2000-08-02 Thread Steve Greenland
On 02-Aug-00, 07:22 (CDT), Rene Mayrhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I have the possibility to say use it in any way, do with the content what you want but do not sell CD-ROMs produced with the official Gibraltar ISO-images ? The problem [1] with the GPL is that it makes it very difficult to

Re: Gibraltar

2000-08-02 Thread Mark Rafn
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: What I would like to have is some sort of protection for the ISO image itself. Umm. Why? If you allow redistribution (which you must, because YOU are distributing based on permission granted you by the GPL), why restrict what is probably the most

Re: Gibraltar

2000-08-02 Thread Jens Müller
- Original Message - From: Mark Rafn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rene Mayrhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-legal@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Gibraltar In reality, I want a situation in some way similiar to what OpenBSD does: they give away

Re: Urgent: Mirroring of encryption software in the USA

2000-08-02 Thread Jens Müller
- Original Message - From: Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jens Müller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-legal@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:10 PM Subject: Re: Urgent: Mirroring of encryption software in the USA On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:21:57PM +0200, Jens

Re: Urgent: Mirroring of encryption software in the USA

2000-08-02 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Joseph Carter wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:21:57PM +0200, Jens Müller wrote: No, that's illegal according to US export regulations (I think with software you mean such software as covered by those regulations) Not so. Crypto software can now legally be exported provided you're

Re: Gibraltar

2000-08-02 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Jens Müller wrote: Another example is Debian itself: There are some restrictions on what can be done with official and non-official ISO images (I think only the logo matters, but the principle is the same). I want something in that direction. You can use similar restrictions as

Selling test-cycle CDs???

2000-08-02 Thread Jens Müller
The FAQ says in 13.1: You do not need permission to distribute anything we have released, so that you can master your CD as soon as the beta-test ends. Does that mean I am not allowed to sell the test-cycle CDs? (Well, the test-cycle will end soon anyway...) Jens

Re: Gibraltar

2000-08-02 Thread Mark Rafn
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, [iso-8859-1] Jens M?ller wrote: In reality, I want a situation in some way similiar to what OpenBSD does: they give away everything they write, but sell the CD-ROMs. Important distinction - they ALSO allow others to sell/copy/distribute the CDROMs. Ah, do they?

Re: Gibraltar

2000-08-02 Thread Mark Rafn
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: That is exactly what I mean: if somebody sells his knowledge, his time by selling support then he does not directly make profit with the ISO images that are distributed freely. He/she makes his profit because others use the freely distributed ISO

Re: Gibraltar

2000-08-02 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Mark Rafn wrote: On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: That is exactly what I mean: if somebody sells his knowledge, his time by selling support then he does not directly make profit with the ISO images that are distributed freely. He/she makes his profit because others use the

Re: Gibraltar

2000-08-02 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Adam Heath wrote: On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: Adam Heath wrote: Please see the comments on freshmeat.net about this. You are illegally distribution Debian. The GPL does not allow to you be more restrictive. I just posted an reply to this. I really was unaware that