Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread Richard Stallman
The GPL requires the freedom to be *allowed* to distribute the software to anyone. The company rules forbid the distribution of the changes to parties outside of the company. These two rules conflict. It is not really a conflict. These copies belong to the company and have never

Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread Richard Stallman
I would rather see a note that this is not the original Vim but a modified version. But I suppose I can't require that without becoming GPL-incompatible... I'm working on changing the GPL to make it possible to add certain requirements along those lines. You might want to wait to

Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread Bram Moolenaar
Branden Robinson wrote: Well, I can see an easy way around this: Don't ship Vim such that it tries to link against the gpm library by default. This would be wrong anyway since Vim is not GPL'ed, and this would encourage people to violate the license on the GPM library. That's not

Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread Bram Moolenaar
Richard Stallman wrote: The GPL requires the freedom to be *allowed* to distribute the software to anyone. The company rules forbid the distribution of the changes to parties outside of the company. These two rules conflict. It is not really a conflict. These copies belong

Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread Bram Moolenaar
Richard Stallman wrote: What if I have a copy with no changes at all, and want to distribute it linked against GPM? I have to make a change (so it's a modified Vim)? Linking against GPM counts as making a change in the program as a whole. So that does not raise an issue.

Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread Bram Moolenaar
Richard Stallman wrote: I would rather see a note that this is not the original Vim but a modified version. But I suppose I can't require that without becoming GPL-incompatible... I'm working on changing the GPL to make it possible to add certain requirements along those

Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread David B Harris
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:26:19 +0100 Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I now understand that the company can be considered to be one licensee, thus passing copies around within the company is not distributing. Thus GPL'ed software can be modified for use inside the company. The only

Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 03:04:02PM -0700, Richard Stallman wrote: What if I have a copy with no changes at all, and want to distribute it linked against GPM? I have to make a change (so it's a modified Vim)? Linking against GPM counts as making a change in the program as a whole. So

Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 12:26:19PM +0100, Bram Moolenaar wrote: The first paragraph of the Vim license says that an unmodified Vim can be distributed without restrictions. This is GPL compatible, right? Thus I would think an unmodified Vim can be distributed under the GPL, so long as you

Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If linking is changing, that would seem to make licenses that say you can distribute unmodified binaries only impossible--you'd only be able to distribute binaries supplied by the author. Quite right. I have no idea what those licenses mean, but I've

Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:03:45PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: If linking is changing, that would seem to make licenses that say you can distribute unmodified binaries only impossible--you'd only be able to distribute binaries supplied by the author. Quite right. I have no idea

Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:03:45PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: If linking is changing, that would seem to make licenses that say you can distribute unmodified binaries only impossible--you'd only be able to distribute binaries supplied

Re: draft for new Vim license

2002-01-10 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:10:30PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:03:45PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: What they *mean* seems fairly obvious to me: you can recompile the source (presumably for different architectures or library versions), and distribute those