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2002-11-15 Thread Haestad Press
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Re: YAST License, is redistribution permitted?

2002-11-15 Thread Thomas Uwe Gruettmueller
Hi Marcello, On Tuesday 12 November 2002 10:06, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: I'm seeking the opinion of -legal regarding an issue I've been discussing on another mailing list. It pertains the YAST license as found in: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/8.1/COPYRIGHT.yast This

Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
Peter, Thanks for message. I've forwarded your message to ilisp-devel for their consideration as well as debian-legal. ILISP has been an important part of Lisp development for many years, so it is essential to clarify the issue completely. Of course, I think it is the hope of all that ILISP's

Re: [Ilisp-devel] Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
Sorry, it must comply with the GPL now as it makes extensive use of GPL code. It is interesting that GNU ships ilisp on their CD: http://www.gnu.org/order/source15.html So GNU is okay with redistributing ILISP. I consider their opinion important. -- Kevin Rosenberg| .''`.

Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Kevin Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Thanks for message. I've forwarded your message to ilisp-devel for their consideration as well as debian-legal. ILISP has been an important part of Lisp development for many years, so it is essential to clarify the issue completely. Of

Re: [Ilisp-devel] Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Kevin Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, it must comply with the GPL now as it makes extensive use of GPL code. It is interesting that GNU ships ilisp on their CD: http://www.gnu.org/order/source15.html So GNU is okay with redistributing ILISP. I consider their opinion

Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
the road. The best way to accomplish such a goal is to start off using the GPL, assign copyright to the FSF (and sign the paperwork), and accept patches only when the contributor is also willing to sign the paperwork. It's tedious, but changing licenses later in the game is difficult when

Re: [Ilisp-devel] Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Marco Antoniotti
From: Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-legal@lists.debian.org Organization: Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Original-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:39:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:39:04 -0500 X-UIDL:

the Lisp Lesser General Public License

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
[debian-legal, I was doing audit of ITPs made this year for weird licenses, or failure to note what license was being used altogether. I asked Mr. Rosenberg about #161007.] On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:31:50PM -0700, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: Hi Brandon, (It's Branden, BTW.) It's a typo -- it

Re: the Lisp Lesser General Public License

2002-11-15 Thread Walter Landry
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The LLGPL doesn't look like a problem from a DFSG standpoint to me. Its real effect appears to be a liberalization of the copyleft in the LGPL (Since Lisp only offers one choice, which is to link the Library into an executable at build time, we

Re: the Lisp Lesser General Public License

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
Branden Robinson wrote: I'm going to raise this license on the debian-legal mailing list just to get some second opinions on it and otherwise get the -legal list familiar with it, because I don't recall having seen it mentioned there before. (Or maybe I just missed it.) I am not sure the

Re: Bug#158320: ITP: cl-defsystem3 -- A system definition and building package for Common Lisp programs

2002-11-15 Thread Walter Landry
Kevin Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Branden Robinson wrote: ;;; following conditions are met: ;;; o distribution of a modification to the Software have been ;;;previously submitted to the maintainers; if the maintainers ;;;decide not to include the submitted

Re: DFSG vs Pine's legal notices: where exactly is the gotcha?

2002-11-15 Thread David Turner
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 02:22, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 05:33:36PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: My suggestion is that you ask the FSF for their more detailed advice. What contact address is best for this

Re: Bug#158320: ITP: cl-defsystem3 -- A system definition and building package for Common Lisp programs

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
Walter Landry wrote: This is the problem. What if the people making a change can not contact the original author, because they live somewhere without internet access? If I make a modification, before I can give it to my friend across the street, I have to contact the original authors. And

Re: YAST License, is redistribution permitted?

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 04:12:07PM +0100, Thomas Uwe Gruettmueller wrote: Hi Marcello, On Tuesday 12 November 2002 10:06, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: I'm seeking the opinion of -legal regarding an issue I've been discussing on another mailing list. It pertains the YAST license as found

Re: [Ilisp-devel] Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
[My apologies for the broad CC; I don't know who is subscribed to which lists, but I'm subscribed to debian-legal, so if you reply to debian-legal, I'll see it.] On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 10:39:56AM -0700, Larry Hunter wrote: I'm one ILISP developer who has no problem with GPL'ing ILISP. I

Re: Bug#158320: ITP: cl-defsystem3 -- A system definition and building package for Common Lisp programs

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:44:43PM -0700, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: Branden Robinson wrote: ;;; following conditions are met: ;;; o distribution of a modification to the Software have been ;;;previously submitted to the maintainers; if the maintainers ;;;decide not

Re: Bug#158320: ITP: cl-defsystem3 -- A system definition and building package for Common Lisp programs

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:44:43PM -0700, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: Also, is the requirement to change the name also non-DFSG compatible? I forgot to answer this point. There has been some debate recently over *precisely* what DFSG 4 means (see the archives of debian-legal regarding the LaTeX

Re: [Ilisp-devel] Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
Branden Robinson wrote: This shouldn't be a problem. A good-faith effort should be sufficient; you can then proceed with a good-faith assumption that the change is not problematic. Thanks very much for your insights, Branden! -- Kevin Rosenberg| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux **