Re: CLUEBAT: copyrights, infringement, violations, and legality

2003-01-31 Thread Paul Hampson
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:09:31PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: Paul Hampson wrote: Copyright Act 1968 Section 31: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ca1968133/s31.html I'm not at all sure that copyright works the same in all countries. I suppose the related international

Re: ImageJ 2 :(

2003-01-31 Thread Paolo Ariano
Il gio, 2003-01-30 alle 22:30, David Turner ha scritto: The ImageJ website is at NIH, as is the author's email address. So, it's probably a US Government work, and therefore public domain. sorry for my ignorance but therefore ? if it is in public domain i can use it to pack for debian under

Re: ImageJ 2 :(

2003-01-31 Thread Paolo Ariano
Il gio, 2003-01-30 alle 18:11, Mark Rafn ha scritto: ImageJ is in the public domain. You should change the name and the About Box (Help-About ImageJ) if you add a license. I'd modify the file that contains the above comment to include the fact that the author has since declared it

Re: License of ROOT: acceptable for non-free?

2003-01-31 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: Clearly the license is non-free due to the requirement that modified versions not be distributed without the permission of the authors. My question is this: if I were to obtain permission from the authors for Debian to distribute packaged binaries

Re: What new name means?

2003-01-31 Thread Doug Winter
On Thu 30 Jan Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote: BTW can you give some examples of licences, that explicitly say, that whole fscking name must be changed, not just version number? Does such beasts really exist? http://www.apache.org/LICENSE.txt * 5. Products derived from this software may not be

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-31 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:14:26PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: these terms and conditions. You may not impose any further ^^ restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights

Re: License of ROOT: acceptable for non-free?

2003-01-31 Thread James Troup
Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: Clearly the license is non-free due to the requirement that modified versions not be distributed without the permission of the authors. My question is this: if I were to obtain permission from the

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-31 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:14:26PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:51:27PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Send him a postcard with the appropriate GPL section highlighted. Um, but what is the appropriate GPL

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-31 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 03:03:21PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: I disagree with the suggestion that the author could be made to realize this merly by mailing him the text of the GPL with a few passages underlined but no further explanation. No argument there. -- Glenn Maynard

mod_ldap licensing issues

2003-01-31 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
Hi all I'm cross-posting d-legal mod_ldap author John Morrissey. If someone would add something about this issue, please add John in Cc. John: We in Debian need some clarifications about your current license for mod_ldap. We need minimally to move proftpd-ldap in non-free section when 1.2.7

Re: ImageJ 2 :(

2003-01-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 10:24:44AM +0100, Paolo Ariano wrote: Il gio, 2003-01-30 alle 22:30, David Turner ha scritto: The ImageJ website is at NIH, as is the author's email address. So, it's probably a US Government work, and therefore public domain. sorry for my ignorance but therefore ?

Re: ImageJ 2 :(

2003-01-31 Thread Paolo Ariano
Il ven, 2003-01-31 alle 16:22, Steve Langasek ha scritto: Public domain means that *none* of the rights associated with copyright are reserved. It can go in main. ok but the problem is that he asks for changes: /* * ImageJ is open-source. You are free to do anything you want * with this

Re: CLUEBAT: copyrights, infringement, violations, and legality

2003-01-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 07:41:15PM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: I'm saying that you seem to be confused by the word. You're analyzing its etymology and deriving its meaning and properties based on that. This is the wrong way to analyze a legal term. Instead, you should be looking at how it

Re: ImageJ 2 :(

2003-01-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 04:30:40PM +0100, Paolo Ariano wrote: Il ven, 2003-01-31 alle 16:22, Steve Langasek ha scritto: Public domain means that *none* of the rights associated with copyright are reserved. It can go in main. ok but the problem is that he asks for changes: If the work is

Re: mod_ldap licensing issues

2003-01-31 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 03:59:37PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: We in Debian need some clarifications about your current license for mod_ldap. We need minimally to move proftpd-ldap in non-free section when 1.2.7 will be uploaded. But this is not a problem of yours surely :). Your

Re: License of ROOT: acceptable for non-free?

2003-01-31 Thread Craig P Steffen
Being unable to not fix security issues in a timely manner is a Bad Thing. We should not support, endorse or otherwise support such software. Not even in non-free (which is not part of Debian proper). Just in case there's some confusion about the type of package, I believe root is a C++

Re: ImageJ 2 :(

2003-01-31 Thread Paolo Ariano
Il ven, 2003-01-31 alle 16:36, Steve Langasek ha scritto: If the work is truly in the public domain, then this request has no legal force. It is not a license, because the author does not hold a copyright and has no authority to stop you from using it if you don't agree to these terms. ok

Re: ImageJ 2 :(

2003-01-31 Thread Steve Greenland
On 31-Jan-03, 03:24 (CST), Paolo Ariano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Il gio, 2003-01-30 alle 22:30, David Turner ha scritto: The ImageJ website is at NIH, as is the author's email address. So, it's probably a US Government work, and therefore public domain. sorry for my ignorance but

Re: License of ROOT: acceptable for non-free?

2003-01-31 Thread Steve Greenland
On 31-Jan-03, 10:17 (CST), Craig P Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having this package in Debian would be a tremendous asset. I think that ROOT's license is acceptable for non-free. Whether it's wise to add it is up to you, the maintainer, and the users. In particular, if I were considering

Re: License of ROOT: acceptable for non-free?

2003-01-31 Thread Mark Rafn
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: Clearly the license is non-free due to the requirement that modified versions not be distributed without the permission of the authors. My question is this: if I were to obtain permission from the authors for Debian to distribute packaged binaries

Re: ImageJ 2 :(

2003-01-31 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 04:30:34PM -0500, David Turner wrote: The ImageJ website is at NIH, as is the author's email address. So, it's probably a US Government work, and therefore public domain. Well... public domain in the USA. This has come up on debian-legal before, but I can't find it

Re: ImageJ 2 :(

2003-01-31 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the work is truly in the public domain, then this request has no legal force. It is not a license, because the author does not hold a copyright and has no authority to stop you from using it if you don't agree to these terms. That's why I'm

Re: License of ROOT: acceptable for non-free?

2003-01-31 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Craig P Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's an analysis package, analagous to Gnuplot. I don't think that it does any network stuff at all, so I don't think that security is an issue. Security is always an issue. If it's found out, for example, that the program has a buffer overflow that

Re: ImageJ 2 :(

2003-01-31 Thread David Turner
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 14:51, Richard Braakman wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 04:30:34PM -0500, David Turner wrote: The ImageJ website is at NIH, as is the author's email address. So, it's probably a US Government work, and therefore public domain. Well... public domain in the USA. This

Re: OSD DFSG - a conclusion

2003-01-31 Thread Sam Hartman
Philip == Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Philip Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't want this discussion to drag on forever, going round and round, covering the same ground, beating a dead horse, and overusing cliches and stock phrases. It sure looks like

Re: CLUEBAT: copyrights, infringement, violations, and legality

2003-01-31 Thread Paul Hampson
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 09:34:13AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 07:41:15PM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: I'm saying that you seem to be confused by the word. You're analyzing its etymology and deriving its meaning and properties based on that. This is the wrong way

Re: CLUEBAT: copyrights, infringement, violations, and legality

2003-01-31 Thread Lynn Winebarger
On Friday 31 January 2003 22:13, Paul Hampson wrote: To me a right (as compared to a privelege) is something you can do, and no-one can take that away from you. This would make a persons's set of rights empty. Lynn