Re: Inconsistencies in our approach

2003-08-03 Thread Nick Phillips
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 09:50:13PM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: i am going to try to take a stab at it: hardware: physical computing devices software: logical information stored by hardware devices that can be used for computation. this allows us to break software into three (or

Re: perl modules' default licence

2003-08-03 Thread Jakob Bohm
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 05:44:19PM +0200, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I sometimes read in Debian Weekly News about discussions on debian-legal about problems with packaging perl modules for Debian because of the vagueness of the licensing terms

Re: Inconsistencies in our approach

2003-08-03 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Nick Phillips wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 09:50:13PM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: % snip of definitions % Pretty good. I would have tried to phrase it slightly differently, but you have hit the nail on the head. If it's represented essentially as a sequence of 1s and 0s in a

Re: msession copyright

2003-08-03 Thread Joerg Wendland
Jakob Bohm, on 2003-08-02, 14:52, you wrote: Glad to help out Matthew Palmer, on 2003-08-03, 10:06, you wrote: In short, I see nothing DFSG-non-free in the licence. Thank you both for your views, Joerg -- Joerg joergland Wendland GPG: 51CF8417 FP: 79C0 7671 AFC7 315E 657A F318 57A3 7FBD

Re: License evaluation sought

2003-08-03 Thread Tore Anderson
* Tore Anderson I would like to have the list members' opinion on the following license, which is about to be applied to the data files of an old adventure game: ~~~ Preamble: Basically, give this game away, share it with your friends. Don't remove this Readme, or

Re: Should our documentation be free? (Was Re: Inconsistencies in our approach)

2003-08-03 Thread Claus Färber
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb/wrote: I'd gather that most of -legal isn't worried about the copyright statement, license, or author's statement (which is the same thing as the copyright statement) being immutable. Most of those can't be modified under the applicable copyright law and

Re: Should our documentation be free? (Was Re: Inconsistencies in our approach)

2003-08-03 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb/wrote: I'd gather that most of -legal isn't worried about the copyright statement, license, or author's statement (which is the same thing as the copyright statement) being immutable. Most of those can't be modified under the applicable copyright law

Re: Inconsistencies in our approach

2003-08-03 Thread Nathanael Nerode
John Goerzen wrote: 1. Would removing the manual for Emacs, libc, or other important GNU software benefit our users? Yep. I'm very unhappy with having non-free software (and software means 0s and 1s -- so nearly everything Debian distributes except the physical CDs) in Debian; as a user,

Re: Should our documentation be free? (Was Re: Inconsistencies in our approach)

2003-08-03 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 11:36, Claus Färber wrote: Of course, someone can add another invariant section to the manual. But this is actually a licence change, possibly making the new version of the manual non-free (although it still uses the GFDL as a template for its licence). This

Re: License evaluation sought

2003-08-03 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 08:05, Tore Anderson wrote: As a few has pointed out, this does not allow for modifying and redistributing modified versions. I believe the only chance I have to make the copyright holder accept such a clause, would be through making it pass DFSG clause 4.

Re: Inconsistencies in our approach

2003-08-03 Thread Jakob Bohm
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 01:24:03PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 21:50:13 -0700, John H Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:38:43 -0700, John H Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: as a mostly passive observer at

Re: Should our documentation be free? (Was Re: Inconsistencies in our approach)

2003-08-03 Thread MJ Ray
Sergey V. Spiridonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about ...not cutting out all the definition alternatives that don't support your position?

a minimal copyleft

2003-08-03 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
The following has little to do with Debian, but it is related to how documentation should be licensed, which was discussed here recently. I was recently asked to suggest a licence for some course material (explanations, exercises, etc) that would allow people to adapt and reuse the material and

Re: Inconsistencies in our approach

2003-08-03 Thread Dylan Thurston
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jakob Bohm wrote: Here is my classification, which handles this better: A piece of information, whether in analog, digital or other form, is a program if it is intended to directly control the actions of a computer, other than by simply holding a pure