Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004, Glenn Maynard wrote: Huh? unless that component itself accompanies the executable. Debian can't use the OS exception. If that means what it appears to mean, how could the OS exemption have ever been meant to be useful at all? I don't believe dynamic linking was popular

Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 12:02:36PM -0700, paul cannon wrote: As we all know, the FSF [6] considers the mere act of linking to create a derived work for the purposes of the GPL, and claims anything linked to a GPL'd work must also be distributable under the terms of the GPL. If

Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 09:04:55PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: On Mon, 02 Feb 2004, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 08:22:05PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: Yeah. My own personal feeling is that we shouldn't be distributing anything to which we need to apply this exception,

Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Ken Arromdee [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 2 Feb 2004, Glenn Maynard wrote: Huh? unless that component itself accompanies the executable. Debian can't use the OS exception. If that means what it appears to mean, how could the OS exemption have ever been meant to be useful at all?

Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) writes: MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2004-02-02 20:11:45 + paul cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I understood that the FSF's opinion on this is not universal. That is, it is not an irrational view that

Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Ken Arromdee [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3 Feb 2004, Henning Makholm wrote: If that means what it appears to mean, how could the OS exemption have ever been meant to be useful at all? It is meant to allow third-party distribution of binaries linked with the C libraries of

Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Ken Arromdee
On 3 Feb 2004, Henning Makholm wrote: But if you link the binary with the C library of a proprietary Unix (and it's not dynamic linking), you are distributing the component with the executable No I'm not. I can perfectly well give away a staically linked binary without also giving a copy

Re: Bug#227159: ocaml: license conflict in Emacs Lisp support?

2004-02-03 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm more concerned with pushing the ocaml.el discussion to a conclusion. One step on the way to a conclusion is to figure out whether the .el files are derived from Emacs solely by virtue of using Emacs's APIs. I've thought about this some more and

Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Ken Arromdee [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3 Feb 2004, Henning Makholm wrote: No I'm not. I can perfectly well give away a staically linked binary without also giving a copy of the libc.a file is linked with. The fact that *parts* of the library go into the binary cannot be used to

Re: Licences with mutually exclusive terms

2004-02-03 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jan 30, 2004, at 14:44, Måns Rullgård wrote: What about the ones that say You must do one of these, giving a bunch of possibly incompatible options? That's fine, as long as one of the options is free. We have a very well-known and accepted license like that, the GNU GPL. Look at

Re: Help with SPIN License

2004-02-03 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jan 30, 2004, at 13:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try to send them a note asking about converting to a real license, but I think I'll pass on the package for now. If you contact them, may I suggest GPL? They seem to want copyleft.

Re: Forward: Re: On the possibility of changing the license of Adobe CMap files

2004-02-03 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jan 29, 2004, at 21:31, Branden Robinson wrote: Adobe is probably busy lobbying to get a certain bill passed which will rectify that little defect in U.S. copyright law. If the Court has any shred of basic literacy left in reading the Constitution, that should go nowhere. Not sure at the

Re: Help with SPIN License

2004-02-03 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jan 29, 2004, at 23:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLEASE READ THIS AGREEMENT CAREFULLY BEFORE PROCEEDING. BY CLICKING ON THE ACCEPT BUTTON BELOW, OR BY DOWNLOADING, INSTALLING, USING, COPYING, MODIFYING OR DISTRIBUTING THE SOFTWARE OR DERIVATIVE WORKS THEREOF, YOU ARE CONSENTING TO BE

Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jan 30, 2004, at 15:12, Glenn Maynard wrote: I believe it's still GPL-incompatible. See The Phorum License, Version 1.2 on http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html . FYI, the Phorum license linked off the FSF page is version 2.0. I have no idea what 1.2 looked like, but its 3 4

Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Feb 2, 2004, at 15:11, paul cannon wrote: One might make wide use of GNU grep extensively in a proprietary program, for example, and do so without affecting or worrying about the license on grep at all. Lotus v. Borland I don't think grep's CLI can have a copyright at all.

Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Feb 2, 2004, at 16:46, MJ Ray wrote: However, if there is a good reason why the result of a compile that included a file from a work, which appears only in that work because it is an extension unique to that work, is not derived from that work, I'm interested to read it. The most obvious

Licence query

2004-02-03 Thread Roger Leigh
The following licence is in use by the libpqxx package (C++ binding for PostgreSQL), and a companion library (libpqxx-object) which I am writing. It appears to be a BSD-style licence, with all UCB references removed, but I'd just like to check with you that it is DFSG-free since it is a different

Re: Revised JasPer License

2004-02-03 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jan 31, 2004, at 21:40, Michael Adams wrote: -- START OF REVISED JASPER SOFTWARE LICENSE -- JasPer License Version 2.0 Copyright (c) 1999-2000 Image Power, Inc. Copyright (c) 1999-2000 The University of British Columbia Copyright (c) 2001-2003 Michael David Adams All

Re: Help with SPIN License

2004-02-03 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12.0 MISCELLANEOUS. This Agreement sets forth the entire agreement and understanding between the pa rties as to the subject matter hereof and merges all prior discussions between them. This Agreement shall be governed by the laws of the

Re: mysql license update

2004-02-03 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jan 29, 2004, at 12:17, Henning Makholm wrote: So it seems. However, beware of works that include php and mysql as well as third-party code with the original un-excepted GPL. I could see the following as being a problem: a) foo.php under PHP 3.0 License using MySQL and a GPL PHP

Re: mysql license update

2004-02-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 03:25:08PM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Jan 29, 2004, at 12:17, Henning Makholm wrote: So it seems. However, beware of works that include php and mysql as well as third-party code with the original un-excepted GPL. I could see the following as being a problem:

Re: Licence query

2004-02-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 02:46:54PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: The following licence is in use by the libpqxx package (C++ binding for PostgreSQL), and a companion library (libpqxx-object) which I am writing. It appears to be a BSD-style licence, with all UCB references removed, but I'd just

Re: Licence query

2004-02-03 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004, Roger Leigh wrote: It appears to be a BSD-style licence, with all UCB references removed, Yeah, that's pretty much what it is. but I'd just like to check with you that it is DFSG-free since it is a different licence, and IANAL. In particular, the no advertising without

Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Glenn Maynard
I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the place to go for this page, not [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 02:49:34PM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: 1.2 on http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html . FYI, the Phorum license linked off the FSF page is version 2.0. I have no idea what

Re: XFree86 license difficulties

2004-02-03 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Feb 2, 2004, at 14:02, paul cannon wrote: I don't quite see how this is so. If the XFree86 Project were to say- theoretically- something like linking dynamically to an XFree86 library does not constitute a derived work for the purposes of the XFree86 license then Qt (e.g.) could be

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What constitutes a package for Policy

2004-02-03 Thread Adam Majer
Hi, I need clarification on what a package is. For example, the policy states (2.2.1): In addition, the packages in main * must not require a package outside of main for compilation or execution (thus, the package must not declare a Depends, Recommends, or Build-Depends