Re: DFSG#10 [was: Re: Draft Debian-legal summary of the LGPL]

2004-05-23 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
2(c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively when run, you must cause it, when started running for such interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a notice that there is no warranty (or

Re: DFSG#10 [was: Re: Draft Debian-legal summary of the LGPL]

2004-05-23 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On May 21, 2004, at 18:36, Lewis Jardine wrote: 8 bears a lot of resemblance to don't break the law clauses IMO, Mexicans can't distribute this software isn't free, even if its part of the GPL.

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 11:38:17AM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: The reason why libfasttrack-gift has never been placed into debian is because it doesn't even qualify non-free. Debian could be sued for this, and other reasons due to its reverse engineering. May I ask you in which country

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Dan Weber
Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 11:38:17AM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: The reason why libfasttrack-gift has never been placed into debian is because it doesn't even qualify non-free. Debian could be sued for this, and other reasons due to its reverse engineering. May I

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Josh Triplett
Dan Weber wrote: Specifically, I recall someone saying that the algorithm used by Sherman Networks is Copyrighted. Even though the upstream is reverse engineering it, I don't think its legal to use. Algorithms can't be copyrighted, only specific implementations of an algorithm. Algorithms

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo: May I ask you in which country reverse-engineering for compatibility is forbidden? Probably in none. But publishing your results is not automatically allowed, and sometimes, there are safeguards against producing a clone (which serves as a replacement of the

Re: DFSG#10 [was: Re: Draft Debian-legal summary of the LGPL]

2004-05-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 10:19:59PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 03:18:05AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: A clause which says you must credit the original author using the following text, is not okay. That one neatly and clearly classifies the vast majority of the

Re: Warranty disclaimers and yelling

2004-05-23 Thread Jakob Bohm
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 11:11:36PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 11:02:17PM -0400, Adam Kessel wrote: My understanding is that this just provides you with evidentiary support that the warranty disclaimer is unequivocal. As a counterexample, imagine a product with the

Re: DFSG#10 [was: Re: Draft Debian-legal summary of the LGPL]

2004-05-23 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 09:18:26PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 10:19:59PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 03:18:05AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: A clause which says you must credit the original author using the following text, is not okay.

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On May 23, 2004, at 11:38, Dan Weber wrote: The reason why libfasttrack-gift has never been placed into debian is because it doesn't even qualify non-free. Debian could be sued for this, and other reasons due to its reverse engineering. Debian has plenty of other software in its archives

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 05:52:46PM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 11:38:17AM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: The reason why libfasttrack-gift has never been placed into debian is because it doesn't even qualify non-free. Debian could be sued for this, and other

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 01:20:47AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: May I ask you in which country reverse-engineering for compatibility is forbidden? I'm just curious, because it is legal in Poland, but only for compatibility reasons, and I guess this situation fits this. That's

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Lewis Jardine
Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: I think that many programs from OpenSource world are made via reverse engineering, and there is no problem with including them in Debian. Consider the most important. Linux kernel. Many drivers are made this way. regards fEnIo Don't forget SAMBA - it's a

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread John Hasler
Wouter Verhelst writes: This is good, but it's not true anywhere else; so if the reverse engineering has been done outside the EU, there's a problem. Reverse-engineering is legal in the USA. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin