Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license

2005-01-21 Thread Loïc Minier
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Fri, Jan 21, 2005: Do you suggest removing from the archive all packages whose licenses impose uncommon restrictions or just this one? In this software the problem is two folds, some parts of the software are clearly free, and some other parts are a fork of

Re: Firefox/Thunderbird trademarks: a proposal

2005-01-21 Thread MJ Ray
Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I'm not planning to develop the instructions document by interactive trial-and-error with you on debian-legal ;-) Fine, but at this time it's not easy to build a firefox-based browser that Mozilla Foundation would be happy with, even with reading

Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license

2005-01-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 09:58:21AM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Fri, Jan 21, 2005: Do you suggest removing from the archive all packages whose licenses impose uncommon restrictions or just this one? In this software the problem is two folds, some parts of the

Re: Illustrating JVM bindings

2005-01-21 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 08:51:46PM -0800, Michael K. Edwards wrote: We seem to be talking past one another. Maybe it's just that I'm implicitly assuming a separation between library source code and program source code, and saying that the latter is only a derivative work of the former if it

Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license

2005-01-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I think all licenses that impose restrictions like those in the APSL are non-free. I think that these are all desireable restrictions in many classes of free licenses. OTOH, what we'd like to see or not in a license does not have an obvious on its freeness.

Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license

2005-01-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you really want to argue that software under licences which try to affect other pieces of unrelated software meets the DFSG? Yes, because I do not believe that it is a restriction on other software. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Draft: Graphviz summary

2005-01-21 Thread Henning Makholm
The discussion of the new Graphviz license sort of petered out, but I think there is a widespread interest into reaching a conclusion. Therefore, I'm trying to ferret out dissent by the ancient and venerable tactic of asserting that a consensus exists: *D R A F T* Debian licence summary of

Is phpGrabComics legal?

2005-01-21 Thread Andres Baravalle
Hi, I am the author of a free software program called GNU phpGrabComics. It started as a very small project, and now it is growing much as user base. My server (I am on a shared hosting) is starting to have load problems, and I have to consider what to do. But, first of all, is the time for

Re: Is phpGrabComics legal?

2005-01-21 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:28:35PM +, Andres Baravalle wrote: All comics are copyright of respective owners, and redistribution of the comics is, for most comics and in most circumstances, not permitted. phpGrabComics is intended for personal use only. Restricting phpGrabComics to

Re: Firefox/Thunderbird trademarks: a proposal

2005-01-21 Thread Gervase Markham
Eric Dorland wrote: Now then, I personally will not accept any deal that is Debian specific. Absolutely reasonable - it would be entirely against DFSG #8. Umm, I don't understand. You'd like to make a deal but you recognize that we can't under DFSG #8? That seems very paradoxical to me. What I

Re: Is phpGrabComics legal?

2005-01-21 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Brian Ristuccia [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:28:35PM +, Andres Baravalle wrote: First off, irrespective of legality and morality, does Debian need another comic downloader in the first place? There is already dailystrips and stripclub in the archive. All comics are

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-21 Thread Walter Landry
Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What if there was a package wget++ that communicated with openssl entirely through system() or exec() calls? It would construct appropriate input and parse openssl's output. Would that constitute linking? It

Re: Is phpGrabComics legal?

2005-01-21 Thread Nick Phillips
On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 01:30:33AM +, Henning Makholm wrote: However, I don't think that there is any need for either Debian or the software author to fear things here. We already distibute several peer-to-peer filesharing implementations whose major real-life use is to distribute

Re: Need to Identify Contributions and the Dissident Test

2005-01-21 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 12:52:45PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Joel Aelwyn wrote: As others have pointed out, Dissident vs. Desert Island are somewhat different tests. However, I guess it really depends on what information is required by #3, in the intent of the author.

Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

2005-01-21 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 10:55:13PM -0500, Walter Landry wrote: Joel Aelwyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See above. This is really getting quite silly. We have strong reason to believe that the Kaffe folks *do not* interpret the GPL as contaminating things which are run within Kaffe (with the

Re: Firefox/Thunderbird trademarks: a proposal

2005-01-21 Thread Eric Dorland
* Gervase Markham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Eric Dorland wrote: Now then, I personally will not accept any deal that is Debian specific. Absolutely reasonable - it would be entirely against DFSG #8. Umm, I don't understand. You'd like to make a deal but you recognize that we can't under