Re: CC-BY license.

2005-03-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 04:24:35AM -0500, Daniel Carrera wrote: The license doesn't say that the name must be prominent. It says that it must be at least as prominent as other credit. Last week I asked the cc-community list if I could just have an appendix titled contributors and put

Re: CC-BY license.

2005-03-09 Thread Daniel Carrera
Andrew Suffield wrote: The third justification refers to the trademark notice on the license's website where it is not obvious if this notice is part of the license. I'm pretty sure the trademarrk notice is not part of the license. So were we (expecting this to be a trivial bug which

Re: CC-BY license.

2005-03-09 Thread MJ Ray
Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Suffield wrote: So were we (expecting this to be a trivial bug which would be rapidly corrected), but when they were asked we got a non-response and it hasn't been fixed *years later*, which made us rather less sure. Alright, let me have a go

Re: The BitTorrent Open Source License

2005-03-09 Thread Josh Triplett
Josselin Mouette wrote: BitTorrent 4.0 is distributed under a new license of its own. Section 6 of the preamble states: 6. If you sublicense the Licensed Product or Derivative Works, you may charge fees for warranty or support, or for accepting indemnity or liability obligations to your

Re: The BitTorrent Open Source License

2005-03-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 09 mars 2005 10:01 -0800, Josh Triplett a crit : The issues I see related to Freeness are: * The requirement to keep source code available for 12 months, even if you are no longer distributing the binary, and even if you distributed the source code along with the binary. I

CC-BY : clarification letter ?

2005-03-09 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hello all, I just had a thought, regarding the CC-BY license. It looks like the license is essentially free, except that there are some vague points that would allow it to be misused. Can this be fixed by just adding a clarification letter? What I mean is, I publish something using the CC-BY

Re: CC-BY : clarification letter ?

2005-03-09 Thread Daniel Carrera
Daniel Carrera wrote: In any event, would you (Debian-legal) help me draft a short and simple letter that would clarify away the problems? How's this? : LICENSE CLARIFICATION This is how we, at OOoAuthors, interpret the Creative Commons Attribution license, used for our work: (*)

Re: GPL'ed programs and libraries

2005-03-09 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 04:44:57PM +, MJ Ray wrote: Philipp Kern wrote: could you please link me to a FAQ about legal concerns which could come up when using the GPL? I think you are looking for http://gnu.hands.com/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhatIsCompatible or maybe a nearby question.

Re: CC-BY : clarification letter ?

2005-03-09 Thread Jamie Fox
Daniel Carrera wrote: LICENSE CLARIFICATION [...] (*) The license does not interfere with fair-use rights. For example, you can always quote from our work and attribute the text. To me this seems unnecessary; section 2 of the CC-BY licence is: 2. Fair Use Rights. Nothing in this

Re: CC-BY : clarification letter ?

2005-03-09 Thread Daniel Carrera
MJ Ray wrote: The letter could just clarify that (1) the author names don't have to be prominent, That would probably work. :-) (2) the license does not interfere with fair-use rights (e.g. quoting you on a bibliography) Is this trying to reverse the author name purge condition?

Re: The BitTorrent Open Source License

2005-03-09 Thread MJ Ray
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * The requirement to maintain a LEGAL file. I don't think this one is really a problem; it's similar to the GPL saying you must mark your modifications as such. This LEGAL file doesn't seem to say that we have to leave the contents we got untouched,

Re: CC-BY : clarification letter ?

2005-03-09 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 16:49:12 -0500 Daniel Carrera wrote: This is how we, at OOoAuthors, interpret the Creative Commons Attribution license, used for our work: Are you, as a copyright holder, considering to use a CC license? I would recommend you to choose a clearly DFSG-free and urge your

Re: CC-BY : clarification letter ?

2005-03-09 Thread Daniel Carrera
Francesco Poli wrote: Are you, as a copyright holder, considering to use a CC license? Yes. I would recommend you to choose a clearly DFSG-free and urge your fellows to do the same. We also want to put our work on the OpenOffice.org website. And OOo has a rather limited set of options. For

Re: CC-BY : clarification letter ?

2005-03-09 Thread MJ Ray
Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But those cases are covered by Fair Use rights. You are always allowed to say Jeremy said ... :) or to put someone's work (and name) on a bibliography, or a footnote. Those are all fair use. Under English law, I'm only allowed to say Daniel wrote ...

Re: CC-BY : clarification letter ?

2005-03-09 Thread Daniel Carrera
MJ Ray wrote: Under English law, I'm only allowed to say Daniel wrote ... and include a chunk of copyrighted material within limited parameters called fair dealing. How do you deal with bibliographies? What about saying Ray doesn't like Lessig? There *has* to be room for more than just Ray