Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-29 Thread Dave Hornford
Glenn Maynard wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 08:53:52PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 11:25:39AM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote: My claim was: "*Basically*, bits in .h files are not copyrightable". Which I now solemnly amend to "The kind of bits you normally (>99% of the ti

Re: public domain

2005-03-29 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Tuesday 29 March 2005 02:11 pm, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 12:24:39PM -0800, Sean Kellogg wrote: > > The US-centric critiques have been addressed[1]. > > ...or not. That citation was inexplicably random. Did you simply pick > the first thing which had somebody to do with CC

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-29 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 05:41:10AM +0200, Måns Rullgård wrote: > > I'd question whether that'd apply to a *free* system, anyway. I havn't > > looked at these cases (since I don't know which they are), but I recall > > a case that sounds just like it: an author of a work created (under > > contract

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-29 Thread Måns Rullgård
Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 08:53:52PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 11:25:39AM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote: >> > >>My claim was: "*Basically*, bits in .h files are not >> > >>copyrightable". Which I now solemnly amend to "The kind of

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-29 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 08:53:52PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 11:25:39AM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote: > > >>My claim was: "*Basically*, bits in .h files are not > > >>copyrightable". Which I now solemnly amend to "The kind of bits you > > >>normally (>99% of the times) find

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-29 Thread Måns Rullgård
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 11:25:39AM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote: >> >>My claim was: "*Basically*, bits in .h files are not >> >>copyrightable". Which I now solemnly amend to "The kind of bits you >> >>normally (>99% of the times) find in .h files in c-langu

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-29 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 11:25:39AM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote: > >>My claim was: "*Basically*, bits in .h files are not > >>copyrightable". Which I now solemnly amend to "The kind of bits you > >>normally (>99% of the times) find in .h files in c-language based > >>projects, and often (>50% of the

Re: Which license for a dictionary or GFDL with clause == free?

2005-03-29 Thread Andrew McMillan
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 23:03 -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > [CCed to Andrew McMillan; please see item 3 below. Feel free to ignore > the rest of the message.] > > [Andrew: this is the part I CCed you about.] > > 3. Would GFDL with a clause would suffice? > > (Note: I am asking because I found this

Re: public domain

2005-03-29 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 12:24:39PM -0800, Sean Kellogg wrote: > The US-centric critiques have been addressed[1]. ...or not. That citation was inexplicably random. Did you simply pick the first thing which had somebody to do with CC and things which aren't in the US? I can't imagine how else you co

Re: Linux and GPLv2#

2005-03-29 Thread Andrew Suffield
http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050324.html I am continually entertained by the way that Adams manages to be right all the time. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><-

Re: Linux and GPLv2#

2005-03-29 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 01:28:57PM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > Maybe he was using the word in a facetious/stylistic manner, rather than a > literal one, and didn't feel it needed justification. That's fine--in which case he could simply have said so, I'd have said "okay", and we'd have moved on a

Re: Linux and GPLv2#

2005-03-29 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 09:34:42PM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Glenn Maynard > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 01:30:16PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > >>Andrew seems to avoid Red Herring arguments more than I. > > > >I asked for the rati

Re: Linux and GPLv2#

2005-03-29 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 01:43:53PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 01:30:16PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > Andrew seems to avoid Red Herring arguments more than I. > > I asked for the rationale behind his calling fair use a "perversion", > and he refused to supply one. It's

Re: Linux and GPLv2#

2005-03-29 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 01:30:16PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: Andrew seems to avoid Red Herring arguments more than I. I asked for the rationale behind his calling fair use a "perversion", and he refused to supply one. It's t

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
"Benj. Mako Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [CC trademark clause] > It is explicit in the source of the page and it's explicit (although > not necessary universally unambiguous) in the graphical visualization > that 99+% of people reading the page see. CC has explained clearly > their position and

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
"Benj. Mako Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is ALLCAPS "NOT A PART OF THE LICENSE", > > ...in an HTML comment... > Only because it's graphically separated, by color and inside a box, > when the HTML is rendered. The HTML comment is trying to make explicit > in the source what is already expl

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-03-29 Thread doug jensen
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 02:09:58PM -0500, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 03:31:01PM -0500, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > > > > > > > Now, agreed, stuff that's not part of the license shouldn't matter. > > > > But it's really, really difficult to tell that the overreaching > > > >

Re: InfoEther license

2005-03-29 Thread Humberto Massa
David Moreno Garza wrote: Hello, I'm currently packaging revolution[1] (a ruby library for interacting with evolution's data-server) and I'd like to ask here if its license, since the author uses an employer-based one, would be entirely free (DFSG compatible), because I don't want to misunderstand

Re: Which license for a dictionary or GFDL with clause == free?

2005-03-29 Thread Brian Nelson
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 11:03:19PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > [CCed to Andrew McMillan; please see item 3 below. Feel free to ignore > the rest of the message.] > > Eddy Petrisor wrote: > > Now comes in the tricky part: > > The copyright holder believes in free software, but he doesn't want hi