Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 20:42:17 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Every book in my book shelf is software? If you digitalize it, yes. AFAIK software only refers to programs, not to arbitrary sequences of bytes. An MP3 file isn't software. Although it surely isn't hardware either. -- Giuseppe

RE: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread David Schwartz
On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 08:07:03PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: The way you stop someone from distributing part of your work is by arguing that the work they are distributing is a derivative work of your work and they had no right to *make* it in the first place. See, for

Re: Creative Commons update and steps forward

2005-04-10 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 11:51:56AM -0400, Evan Prodromou wrote: I got email from Lawrence Lessig this week that their new general counsel, Mia Garlick, has been reviewing the debian-legal summary and will have a response for us by 8 April. So, another update: I got email from LL on Friday. He

Re: Creative Commons license summary (version 4)

2005-04-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:29:58 -0300 Humberto Massa wrote: my suggestion: You may not distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform the Work with any technological measures that prevent the recipient from exercising the rights

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Humberto Massa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henning Makholm wrote: Yes I would. Linking forms a tighter coupling than just placing the two parts side by side on a filesystem designed for general storage of byte streams. There is more to say about the situation than the naked fact that that

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, then you cannot legally copy it at all, because it contains part of the original author's copyrighted work and therefore can only legally be copied with the permission of the author. The way you stop someone from distributing part of

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 04:56:50AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Yes I would. Linking forms a tighter coupling than just placing the two parts side by side on a filesystem designed for general storage of byte streams. There is more to say about the

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 03:10:43AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Humberto Massa [EMAIL PROTECTED] After a *lot* of discussion, it was deliberated on d-l that this is not that tricky at all, and that the mere aggregation clause applies to the

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 01:18:11PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: Well that's the problem. While copyright law does permit you to restrict the right to create derivative works, it doesn't permit you to restrict the distribution of lawfully created derivative works to licensees of the

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Sunday 10 April 2005 01:18 pm, David Schwartz wrote: You could do that be means of a contract, but I don't think you could it do by means of a copyright license. The problem is that there is no right to control the distribution of derivative works for you to withhold from me. and

RE: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread David Schwartz
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 01:18:11PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: Well that's the problem. While copyright law does permit you to restrict the right to create derivative works, it doesn't permit you to restrict the distribution of lawfully created derivative works to licensees of the