Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-12 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/11/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. S. Note, however, that the Linux kernel is a derivative work of works by some other authors, such as netfilter/iptables. I don't mean to say that no one but Linus can file a claim of copyright infringement or breach of contract

Re: Is this license DFSG free?

2005-06-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It blatently fails DFSG 5, because the person modifying the software may not have internet access for emailing the changes. (Think perhaps a developing nation.) I still do not believe that this is discrimination against persons or groups. This is an unreasonable

Re: Is this license DFSG free?

2005-06-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, I can only give you a link but as I understand it the tests are commonly used. http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html You do not understand correctly. This FAQ is merely the opinion of a few debian-legal contributors, is not widely accepted and is by no

Re: LPPL and source-less distribution

2005-06-12 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050611 20:05]: The FSF is not in the business of giving truthful advice about the law. Sorry to ask the following, but I am getting really curious and hope you do not feel insulted. But I really have to ask: Are you sponsored by, employed by or otherwise

Re: MPlayer revisited

2005-06-12 Thread MJ Ray
Diego Biurrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I surely hope we're not at the point where constructive dialog has become impossible. I ask all of you to judge my words on their merit and not past statements made by other people. I think we're not, but I don't know whether either mplayer developers or

Re: MPlayer revisited

2005-06-12 Thread MJ Ray
Kevin B. McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems like a potentially bad idea, actually. I certainly can't cite specific laws, but I seem to recall from similar discussions that if a patent holder can prove a patent was violated in full knowledge of the violation, he is entitled to triple

Re: Is this license DFSG free?

2005-06-12 Thread MJ Ray
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The choice-of-venue makes it *non-free*. There is no consensus about this, many people have no complaints about choice of venue. ..and there I was thinking that we needed consensus to say that something is free, too. I consider

Re: Is this license DFSG free?

2005-06-12 Thread MJ Ray
Sean Kellogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well now, this strikes me as a problem from a political science=20 perspective (my undergrad degree). Debian-legal, a self-appointed group of= You have written self-appointed. That is incorrect. debian-legal is not a delegated or appointed post.

Re: Is this license DFSG free?

2005-06-12 Thread MJ Ray
Sean Kellogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that's certainly a great deal better, structurally. I guess I've nev= er=20 really seen any ftp-master discussion on this list... but then again, I=20 don't know their names, so I wouldn't really know who was who. But at leas= t=20 there is some

Re: removing the debian-legal website stuff?

2005-06-12 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 02:33:02AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Frank Lichtenheld wrote: Since this hasn't really worked out I propose to delete this stuff again until someone comes up with a better idea how to better present the work of debian-legal. I support deleting the summaries. I think

Re: MPlayer revisited

2005-06-12 Thread MJ Ray
Diego Biurrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] My problem is that ftpmasters are ephemeral creatures that are very hard to come by. I think that's a common feeling about delegates. I think it's linked to 26 developers holding two or more organisational roles (and two have 7 each). [...] At

Re: LPPL and source-less distribution

2005-06-12 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/12/05, Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050611 20:05]: The FSF is not in the business of giving truthful advice about the law. Sorry to ask the following, but I am getting really curious and hope you do not feel insulted. But I really

Re: LPPL and source-less distribution

2005-06-12 Thread Michael K. Edwards
Oh, and just to remind you: I am pro-non-crack-smoking-GPL, and have even been known to advocate that it be required as a matter of law that software other than e-toys be offered substantially under the GPL terms. In most circles I would be seen as a radical free software enthusiast. I just

Re: Is this license DFSG free?

2005-06-12 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Sunday 12 June 2005 12:19 am, Wei Mingzhi wrote: A free software license should not require any modifications to be submitted to the initial developer. This doesn't seem to allow releasing my modified code _myself_ without submitting it to anyone, only the initial developer can do so.