Why not use a non-us section for program with patent problems in US?

2006-10-20 Thread Hans Ekbrand
Hi debian-legal! [ While I occasionally read debian-legal, I might have missed previous discussions on this matter. If you have references to such threads, please give them. ] AFAIK in large parts of the world, e.g. in Europe, software patents are not recognised. Debian has previously used a

Re: OSSAL/CC license of xMule parts

2006-10-20 Thread Weakish Jiang
On 3 Oct 2006, at 05:13, Daniel Leidert wrote: Hello, I'm currently preparing an updated xMule package and found a statement, which sounds a bit problematic. But I'm not a lawyer, so I ask you. E.g. xLibs/DynPrefs/DynamicPreferences.cpp states: // This file is dually licensed under the terms

Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-10-20 Thread MJ Ray
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] proposed: We believe that the draft CC-BY and CC-BY-SA licenses appear to be Free Licenses, so that most works licensed under them will probably satisfy the DFSG. Please note that Debian evaluates the freeness of each work independently. Issues beyond

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-20 Thread MJ Ray
Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If it is a license from the copyright holders, than the only ones who can sue Debian for distribution of sourceless GPL'ed works are, er, the people who originally gave out those works in that form. I understand there is some contention around

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-20 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
MJ Ray wrote: While fairly simple, it is totally incorrect, as public distribution in breach of copyright carries criminal liability in England, as I previously posted. See the Copyright Designs and Patents Act as amended, under the criminal liability heading.

Re: Why not use a patended section for programs with patent problems?

2006-10-20 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:55:15AM +0200, Hans Ekbrand wrote: Hi debian-legal! [ While I occasionally read debian-legal, I might have missed previous discussions on this matter. If you have references to such threads, please give them. ] I found the recent thread on the matter

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 02:10:37PM +0200, Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: MJ Ray wrote: While fairly simple, it is totally incorrect, as public distribution in breach of copyright carries criminal liability in England, as I previously posted. See the Copyright Designs and Patents Act as amended,

Re: Why not use a patended section for programs with patent problems?

2006-10-20 Thread Daniel Baumann
Hans Ekbrand wrote: The current sitution means that debian restricts itself more than it has to. Debian could give users in many, but not all countries, access to popular technologies (in particular mp3, mpeg-2 and mpeg-4 encoders), but doesn't. Why not? Fabian Greffrath and I are working on

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-20 Thread Don Armstrong
[Cross posting cut out, because this isn't particularly germane to the other lists.] On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Sven Luther wrote: IANAL and everything, but all times we discussed the issue the opinion that prevaled, was that the firmware do not constitute a derivative work of the kernel, This is