Re: OpenCascade license opinion

2007-12-21 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Francesco Poli wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:45:28 + John Halton wrote: I don't think there's a problem with making the licence binding on users or downloaders. Quite the contrary: someone who uses or downloads the software is performing an act restricted by the copyright for which a

Re: OpenCascade license opinion

2007-12-21 Thread John Halton
On 21/12/2007, Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francesco Poli wrote: Specifically for computer programs, some jurisdictions recognize the right to load and execute a program as an exclusive right of the copyright holder. The 1991 EU Copyright Directive for instance explicitly says

Re: OpenCascade license opinion

2007-12-21 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
John Halton wrote: On 21/12/2007, Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the copyright holder makes a program available for download (or permits someone else to do so), then I would say that anyone who downloads the work is a lawful acquirer and therefore may execute the work

Re: OpenCascade license opinion

2007-12-21 Thread John Halton
On 21/12/2007, Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if a lawful acquirer is someone who has a right to use it, why would the Directive need to spell out they have the right to use it? Well, quite. That's probably why the UK implementation hides it away in section 50C under the bland

Re: OpenCascade license opinion

2007-12-21 Thread John Halton
On 21/12/2007, Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never seen cases or commentary on this point either. I suppose it wouldn't be worth the lawsuit. Even if my interpretation were to prevail, all it gets someone is the right to execute the software on the one computer he downloaded

Re: OpenCascade license opinion

2007-12-21 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
John Halton wrote: It's like saying, Someone who has the right to park their car in this parking space has the right to drive their car onto that parking space. Now I see what you mean. Fair point, I'll have to be a little more nuanced in my responses here. I've never seen cases or commentary

Re: OpenCascade license opinion

2007-12-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:51:01 + John Halton wrote: [...] However, when you download software, you are not acquiring an existing copy - you are creating a new one. Hence Article 5(1) does not apply. Wait, who's creating the new copy, though? I would say that, if I download software from a

Re: OpenCascade license opinion

2007-12-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:44:16 +0100 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: Francesco Poli wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:45:28 + John Halton wrote: I don't think there's a problem with making the licence binding on users or downloaders. Quite the contrary: someone who uses or downloads the

Re: OpenCascade license opinion

2007-12-21 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Adam C Powell IV a écrit : On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 02:25 +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Adam C Powell IV a écrit : Greetings, I just sent in an RFP for Salomé, a very nice and highly capable engineering tool under LGPL. That was my goal when I started to look at packaging OpenCascade. But