Re: Artistic and LGPL compatibility in jar files

2009-12-17 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 20091217024135.af5a9f7...@nail.towers.org.uk, MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop writes Andrew Dalke wrote: On Dec 14, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: I can't be bothered to read the book, but if it's the book I think it is, then I already have read it and came to the

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Re: Artistic and LGPL compatibility in jar files

2009-12-17 Thread MJ Ray
Andrew Dalke wrote: On Dec 17, 2009, at 3:41 AM, MJ Ray wrote: Maybe a proper citation instead of a bare URL would have helped avoid this confusion. (Line wraps would help too.) Since my first post, of which I think you are talking about, also included the book title and author name, I

Re: Artistic and LGPL compatibility in jar files

2009-12-17 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:06:41 +0100 Andrew Dalke wrote: [...] The best counter example is the GFDL-Creative Commons relicensing, when the original GFDL's license grant is essentially identical to the GPLs. Sorry, but I strongly disagree with your statement about the presumed essential identity

Re: Artistic and LGPL compatibility in jar files

2009-12-17 Thread Alexander Cherepanov
Hi Anthony! On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:34:27 +, Anthony W. Youngman deb...@thewolery.demon.co.uk wrote: In section 10 (GPLv3): 10. Automatic Licensing of Downstream Recipients. Each time you convey a covered work, the recipient automatically receives a license from the original

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Re: Fwd: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-17 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:00:48 + Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message 20091216233823.af491478@firenze.linux.it, Francesco Poli f...@firenze.linux.it writes The second question may seem strange, but why copyleft license is used? Hopefully in order to prevent the distribution of

Re: Fwd: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Francesco Poli f...@firenze.linux.it writes: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:00:48 + Anthony W. Youngman wrote: If it's copyright, it's proprietary. proprietary == property. If it's copyright, it has an owner, therefore it's property, therefore it's proprietary. Your reasoning does not

Re: Fwd: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-17 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 12/18/09, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: I'm doubtful that it's correct to say “If it's copyright, it has an owner”. Copyright is *not* a property right; it's a different monopoly right. Monopolies are held; that doesn't make the holder of a monopoly the “owner” in a property

Re: Fwd: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Andrew Donnellan ajdli...@gmail.com writes: On 12/18/09, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: I'm doubtful that it's correct to say “If it's copyright, it has an owner”. Copyright is *not* a property right; it's a different monopoly right. Monopolies are held; that doesn't make the

Re: Fwd: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-17 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 12/18/09, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Andrew Donnellan ajdli...@gmail.com writes: On 12/18/09, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: I'm doubtful that it's correct to say “If it's copyright, it has an owner”. Copyright is *not* a property right; it's a different