Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread MJ Ray
Sean Kellogg wrote: Moreover, in the present case, I think that I honestly stated that the DFSG-freeness of choice of venue clauses is controversial and then I provided my own personal opinion, *explicitly* labeling it as such. [...] The problem with this line of argument is that it

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 20100104123153.65a79f7...@nail.towers.org.uk, MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop writes I'm not convinced that there is consensus on choice-of-venue being acceptable. I suspect there's a mix of considering it acceptable, thinking we can fight it when needed and ignorance. Actually, I

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Poole
Anthony W. Youngman writes: In message 20100104123153.65a79f7...@nail.towers.org.uk, MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop writes I'm not convinced that there is consensus on choice-of-venue being acceptable. I suspect there's a mix of considering it acceptable, thinking we can fight it when needed and

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 04 January 2010 04:31:53 am MJ Ray wrote: Sean Kellogg wrote: Moreover, in the present case, I think that I honestly stated that the DFSG-freeness of choice of venue clauses is controversial and then I provided my own personal opinion, *explicitly* labeling it as such. [...]

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 04 January 2010 06:36:26 am Michael Poole wrote: Anthony W. Youngman writes: In message 20100104123153.65a79f7...@nail.towers.org.uk, MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop writes I'm not convinced that there is consensus on choice-of-venue being acceptable. I suspect there's a mix of

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Poole
Sean Kellogg writes: You can object all you want. I'm not say that choice-of-venue clauses are somehow great... just saying that aren't prohibited by the DFSG. The DFSG does not give you everything you want, only what you need :) The usual argument is that choice of venue violates DFSG #5 by

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Sunday 03 January 2010 09:52:04 am Francesco Poli wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:28:32 -0800 Sean Kellogg wrote: [dropping pkg-boinc-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org as I don't think they care about this...] [Yes, I agree.] [Please also avoid Cc:ing me, since I am subscribed to

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 04 January 2010 09:15:20 am Michael Poole wrote: Sean Kellogg writes: You can object all you want. I'm not say that choice-of-venue clauses are somehow great... just saying that aren't prohibited by the DFSG. The DFSG does not give you everything you want, only what you need

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Nicolas Alvarez
MJ Ray wrote: I'm not convinced that there is consensus on choice-of-venue being acceptable. I suspect there's a mix of considering it acceptable, thinking we can fight it when needed and ignorance. This choice-of-venue discussion looks like it won't get consensus soon, and it is getting us

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
mdpo...@troilus.org wrote: The usual argument is that choice of venue violates DFSG #5 by discriminating against people who live outside the venue. Is there some The usual argument of the DFSG revisionists is that everything is a restriction or a discrimination, so it's not really helpful. --

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
nicolas.alva...@gmail.com wrote: How about we try this? Let's assume for a moment that choice-of-venue is both acceptable and allowed by the DFSG. Then look at the *rest* of the cal.h license terms instead of continuing the argument about this one. As explained, the license does not really

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Poole
Nicolas Alvarez writes: MJ Ray wrote: I'm not convinced that there is consensus on choice-of-venue being acceptable. I suspect there's a mix of considering it acceptable, thinking we can fight it when needed and ignorance. This choice-of-venue discussion looks like it won't get consensus

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Nicolas Alvarez
Marco d'Itri wrote: nicolas.alva...@gmail.com wrote: How about we try this? Let's assume for a moment that choice-of-venue is both acceptable and allowed by the DFSG. Then look at the *rest* of the cal.h license terms instead of continuing the argument about this one. As explained, the

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Walter Landry
Sean Kellogg skell...@probonogeek.org wrote: On Sunday 03 January 2010 09:52:04 am Francesco Poli wrote: [While you are at it, could you please set a sane wrap value? Long lines in your e-mail messages are unpractical to read on web archives and to reply to...] The archive looks fine [1],

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:16:43 -0800 Sean Kellogg wrote: On Sunday 03 January 2010 09:52:04 am Francesco Poli wrote: [...] [While you are at it, could you please set a sane wrap value? Long lines in your e-mail messages are unpractical to read on web archives and to reply to...] The

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 03:07:23PM -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote: This choice-of-venue discussion looks like it won't get consensus soon, and it is getting us away from the original thread topic. How about we try this? Let's assume for a moment that choice-of-venue is both acceptable and

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 04 January 2010 11:33:15 am Walter Landry wrote: Sean Kellogg skell...@probonogeek.org wrote: On Sunday 03 January 2010 09:52:04 am Francesco Poli wrote: [While you are at it, could you please set a sane wrap value? Long lines in your e-mail messages are unpractical to read on

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Poole
Sean Kellogg writes: On Monday 04 January 2010 09:15:20 am Michael Poole wrote: Sean Kellogg writes: You can object all you want. I'm not say that choice-of-venue clauses are somehow great... just saying that aren't prohibited by the DFSG. The DFSG does not give you everything you want,

Re: BOINC: lib/cal.h license issue agree with the DFSG?

2010-01-04 Thread Ben Finney
Sean Kellogg skell...@probonogeek.org writes: On Sunday 03 January 2010 09:52:04 am Francesco Poli wrote: [Please also avoid Cc:ing me, since I am subscribed to debian-legal...] Noted... though, my mail client handles such things. You appear to be using KMail. You should use the “reply to

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