Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-27 Thread Ole Streicher
Dave Hibberd writes: > https://naif.jpl.nasa.gov/naif/rules.html > > See especially sections on Kernels Distribution and Kernels > Redistribution. The intent is to allow anyone to use or redistribute > as long as the files/kernels are not modified." This is incomplete. The full paragraph is: | R

Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-27 Thread Ole Streicher
Ben Finney writes: > I think it is non-free, for the reason above. > > If the license conditions also do not permit redistribution of modified > works, the work is not DFSG-free. It cannot be in Debian. I still think that the DE405 database is not a creative work and therefore not copyrightable;

Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-27 Thread jonathon
On 02/27/2018 10:39 PM, Francesco Poli wrote: > Where can I find the text of the NOSA v2.0 ? I was going to suggest https://web.archive.org/web/20150923151504/https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2013-June/000610.html but the attachment containing the text was scrubbed. NASA

Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 22:22:48 + jonathon wrote: > On 02/27/2018 09:54 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > > That conflict needs to be resolved, IMO. Do they intend to grant all the > > DFSG freedoms to the work's recipient, or not? > > My recommendation is to go back to NASA, asking if this will be > reli

Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-27 Thread Walter Landry
Ben Finney writes: > Dave Hibberd writes: > >> […] >> See especially sections on Kernels Distribution and Kernels >> Redistribution. The intent is to allow anyone to use or redistribute >> as long as the files/kernels are not modified." > > That intent explicitly does not permit distribution of m

Re: IUPAC/InChI-Trust Licence DFSG-Compliant ?

2018-02-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:49:20 +1100 Ben Finney wrote: > Ben Finney writes: > > > To the extent that text is derived from the GNU LGPL, it is a copyright > > violation: [...] > I showed both of those to show that the requirement has not changed > between versions (so it is sufficient to determine

Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-27 Thread jonathon
On 02/27/2018 09:54 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > That conflict needs to be resolved, IMO. Do they intend to grant all the > DFSG freedoms to the work's recipient, or not? My recommendation is to go back to NASA, asking if this will be relicenced under NOSO 2.0, if/when OSI states that that license is O

Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-27 Thread Ben Finney
Dave Hibberd writes: > […] > See especially sections on Kernels Distribution and Kernels > Redistribution. The intent is to allow anyone to use or redistribute > as long as the files/kernels are not modified." That intent explicitly does not permit distribution of modified works. That permission

Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-27 Thread Walter Landry
Hi Dave, The FTP masters are the final judge, but it looks fine to me. It is basically free distribution with a requirement to change attributions if modified. Cheers, Walter Landry Dave Hibberd writes: > Walter, > > Thanks for the response - I got in touch with Mr Folkner, and I received the

Re: JPL Planetary Ephemeris DE405

2018-02-27 Thread Dave Hibberd
Walter, Thanks for the response - I got in touch with Mr Folkner, and I received the following response: "We consider the ascii and binary ephemeris files the same SPICE kernels that have exactly the same information just in a different format. The ephemeris data are then released for public u