Re: GR proposal: the AGPL does not meet the DFSG (take 2)

2009-11-17 Thread Bill Allombert
I moved the discussion to debian-vote where it belongs. (please CC me). On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 06:05:25PM +, Mike Hommey wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:45:25PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: Again, this is not the language that the AGPL uses. It requires that your modified version

Re: issues with the AGPL

2009-03-30 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:04:53PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: I don't think there are any problems with the AGPL and indeed I might well consider using the AGPL for works of my own. I don't have time That is not very interesting, because if you are the sole copyright holder, you do not have to

Re: issues with the AGPL

2009-03-27 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 03:23:21PM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009 20:32:10 MJ Ray wrote: Here the scenario becomes impossible IMO - if Z is truly a bad actor, Z will always either find a way to withhold their source code or develop on an alternative A's

issues with the AGPL

2009-03-23 Thread Bill Allombert
Hello Debian legal, I'd like to share two issue I found with the AGPL, for the record. REFERENCES: The GNU Affero General Public License (AGPL) is essentially the GNU General Public License with the following additional clause reproduced below. See

Re: issues with the AGPL

2009-03-23 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:46:24AM -0400, Greg Harris wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:27:42 +0100 Bill Allombert bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr wrote: Hello Debian legal, The AGPL has been the topic of multiple extended and heated discussions during my short time subscribed

Re: firefox - iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-08 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 01:21:24AM +0100, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: El martes, 5 de diciembre de 2006 a las 13:57:48 -0800, Jeff Carr escrib?a: I notice that recently you have complied with Mozilla's request to not use their trademarks for your browser packages. However, you can't also use

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-06 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 07:09:53AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: It is not reasonable for the project to vote on questions of legality, nor is it appropriate to rely on debian-legal for questions of legality. If the May I remind that debian-legal is a mailing list ? relevant

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:46:57PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: And hi to everyone from /.! http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/06/07/047204.shtml for those playing along at home. If you wanted to avoid publicity, not announcing the inclusion of 'Sun Java' on debian-devel-announce would have

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 07:43:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: To a degree, yes. In this particular case, ftpmaster are the maintainers of the archive, and their statements on what's suitable for the archive are authoritative by definition -- that's precisely what their area of authority is.

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 07:44:54PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 06:13:27AM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote: As for the relevance of Sun position on Debian developers, there simply is none. The issue at question is whether Sun has given adequate permission for Debian

Re: ipv6calc: IP address assignments as source code

2006-06-04 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 11:49:50PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: The ipv6calc upstream tarball database directory contains a README saying: Because of unknown license issues, the database files aren't included in source tarball (cleanup by make distclean), but will be retrieved on make Thus

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-04 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 09:57:40AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: OTOH, I'd say pull it *now* while distribution is low, then fix the problems, and only *then* get it back in... seems to be the least damaging route to go for, imho. You can say that if you like, but please be aware that it's

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-03 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 07:37:21PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: I really hope we can solve the issues in a graceful manner. ...and fast, too. This is urgent while that the package is in the archive with the broken license. I think we should set a strict deadline for pulling it, if not

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-24 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 01:27:41PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: complaining that no one shopped the license around to -legal before the upload (which no one ever has an obligation to do) isn't... The Debian developer reference states in section 5.1. New packages the process to add new packages

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-21 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 11:09:04AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: At least so far as I understand it, the ftp-masters (i.e., the people who did this check) are the people responsible for verifying and checking licenses in uploaded packages and debian-legal exists as an advisory body for the

Re: UC license and debian

2006-05-17 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 01:24:50PM -0700, kris wrote: We are releasing some software and would like to make sure it is compatible with debian. We have been told that this is the current license to use for UC produced works. http://www.ucop.edu/ott/permissn.html I searched the archives

Re: Affero General Public License

2006-02-07 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 11:00:00AM -0500, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: I *do* think that the spirit behind the AGPL and Affero-inspired clause in the GPLv3 is fully in line with our principles. *Users* of software should be able to modify their software. There is the issue of defining *users*. My

Re: Moglen on kernel firmware blobs

2006-01-20 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 12:18:06AM +, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6028746-2.html?tag=st.next Moglen: I would distinguish the blobs from the proprietary drivers in the kernel. If the kernel's terms were

Re: Bug#316487: debian-installer-manual: Missing copyright credit: Karsten M. Self for section C.4

2005-07-01 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 12:36:14PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: The Debian Project has been distributing this work in violation of my copyrights. I've previously requested this be remedied in 2003, the situation remains uncorrected:

Re: removing the debian-legal website stuff?

2005-05-27 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 08:10:06PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: I have recently been wondering if it would be possible to come up with some way of splitting -legal up in order to make it more approachable for outsiders. Unfortunately it seems that -legal is prone to enormous threads that often

Re: License question about regexplorer

2005-05-24 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:53:29PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree with that. Debian is an online organisation and discussion and decision need to happen online. Noone is prevented to read debian-legal. People are heavily discouraged

Re: Firefox/Thunderbird trademarks: a proposal

2005-01-17 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 11:53:14PM -0500, Walter Landry wrote: Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my attempt at something which hopefully everyone can accept. I've tried to take into account all the excellent feedback over the past few weeks, for which I thank all involved.

Re: AbiWord, trademarks, and DFSG-freeness

2004-10-18 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 02:12:41AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Let me try to summarize their position as I understand it: A) The existing trademark restrictions documented in /usr/share/doc/abiword/copyright are out of date, as is URL: http://www.abisource.com/tm_guide.phtml .

Bug#242895: drivers/usb/emi26_fw.h has a non-free license

2004-04-09 Thread Bill Allombert
Package: kernel-source-2.4.25 Version: 2.4.25-1 Severity: serious The file drivers/usb/emi26_fw.h carry the license below: /* * This firmware is for the Emagic EMI 2|6 Audio Interface * * The firmware contained herein is Copyright (c) 1999-2002 Emagic * as an unpublished work. This notice

firmwares in the 2.4.25 Linux kernel (Debian sources)

2004-04-09 Thread Bill Allombert
Hello Debian legal, I have made a very cursory check of firmware in the 2.4.25 kernel. If you want some fun first, look at [2] below. Basically I have looked at filenames matching *fw*.[ch]: firmware with complete source code (in assembly): drivers/char/ser_a2232fw.h

removing non-invaraint section from a GFDL doc

2003-06-29 Thread Bill Allombert
Hello debian-legal, Suppose I remove all the non-invariant sections of a GFDL document that have some sections marked invariant. Are the invariant sections still secondary? If not, can I still distribute the resulting document ? Cheers, -- Bill. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Imagine a large red swirl

#153467: libjpeg62: JPEG is patent-encumbered

2003-03-18 Thread Bill Allombert
severity 153467 important thanks Hello debian-legal and Florian, As discussed previously, it seems there is nothing to do about this issue short of moving main in non-US-EU-JP. So I downgrade the severity to important so that we can release sarge someday :). If you have new informations about

#153467: libjpeg62: JPEG is patent-encumbered

2002-11-24 Thread Bill Allombert
severity 153467 serious thanks Hello developers, The JPEG commitee has released a press kit about the patend issue, see http://www.jpeg.org/newsrel4.html. Could someone that understand legalese make a summary for further discussion about what to do Debian-wise? Cheers, -- Bill. [EMAIL

[Weimer@cert.uni-stuttgart.de: Bug#153467: libjpeg62: JPEG is patent-encumbered]

2002-07-21 Thread Bill Allombert
PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bug#153467: libjpeg62: JPEG is patent-encumbered Reply-To: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-From: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL