Scripsit Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) IBM is only talking about software patents. I'm willing to concede
that software patents constitute a much more direct threat to free
software than traditional patents.
Why should that matter in
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1) IBM is only talking about software patents. I'm willing to concede
that software patents constitute a much more direct threat to free
software than traditional patents.
Why should that matter in your eyes?
Because, we're talking about
Scripsit Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I haven't seen anybody accept the license we're talking about here as
free.
But the IBM licence has been accepted as free, and it seems to be
rather similar.
I have pointed out the important differences.
I can't see a major qualitative
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
There's at least two important differences:
1) IBM is only talking about software patents. I'm willing to concede
that software patents constitute a much more direct threat to free
software than traditional patents.
2) The only thing that
Scripsit Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have pointed out the important differences.
You did indeed list two differences, but did you provide a convincing
argument that those differences should be decisive?
If it doesn't convince you, I cannot do
hi
I recently got interested in the openmath project
www.openmath.org
I was talking with a researcher from the RISC institute
and she told me they are licensing the Java library for openmath
as opensource, but she wanted to be sure if the license is opensource
I have read it, but my english
Scripsit A Mennucc1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have read it, but my english fails me when it says:
2.1 subject to third party intellectual property
claims:
(a) under intellectual property rights (other than patent or
trademark) Licensable by Initial Developer to use, reproduce,
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
http://crystal.win.tue.nl/license/rpl.html
Clause 8.2(b) seems to be a showstopper:
| 8.2. If You initiate litigation by asserting a patent infringement
| claim (excluding declaratory judgment actions) against Initial Developer
| or a Contributor (the
Scripsit Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
http://crystal.win.tue.nl/license/rpl.html
Clause 8.2(b) seems to be a showstopper:
| 8.2. If You initiate litigation by asserting a patent infringement
| claim (excluding declaratory judgment actions)
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think the purpose of the clause is not to punish patenteers but to
protect the authors.
There is no protection to be gained here, unless the authors want
protection for their own unlawful patent infringements.
Patents that concern the licenced
Scripsit Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Wrong analogy. The above says that that if you steal somebody's
car and they demand it back they lose the right to the software.
I think software authors have a right to reject patents and attempt to
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 8.2. If You initiate litigation by asserting a patent infringement
| claim (excluding declaratory judgment actions) against Initial Developer
| or a Contributor (the Initial Developer or Contributor against whom
| You file such action is referred to
Scripsit Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| (b) any software, hardware, or device, other than such Participant's
| Contributor Version, directly or indirectly infringes any patent, then
I would consider that discriminating against a field of
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Scripsit Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| (b) any software, hardware, or device, other than such Participant's
| Contributor Version, directly or indirectly infringes any patent, then
I would
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 01:04:20PM -0800, Walter Landry wrote:
I'm not actually arguing that these patent agreements are good things.
However, the cat is out of the bag, everyone accepts these licenses as
free (even the FSF), and I don't think objecting to similar conditions
is going to do any
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