Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-20 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050519 19:52]: Moral rights only allow you to act against mutilation of the work and lack of proper attribution. And you have the right to decide on _first_ publication. But once you publish, the work is on the market and your rights are exhausted. I

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-19 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
O Mércores, 18 de Maio de 2005 ás 21:46:48 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez escribía: That is completely not possible. Once you offer (and someone accepts) code under the terms of the GPL, they are for evermore entitled to use *that* code under the GPL. About the only thing that can be done is

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-19 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Jacobo Tarrio wrote: O M?rcores, 18 de Maio de 2005 ?s 21:46:48 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez escrib?a: That is completely not possible. Once you offer (and someone accepts) code under the terms of the GPL, they are for evermore entitled to use *that* code under the GPL. About the only thing

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-19 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
O Xoves, 19 de Maio de 2005 ás 19:52:28 +0200, Arnoud Engelfriet escribía: That's an aspect of EU copyright law I'm not aware of. Can you tell me which Berne provision or EU directive this is? Please, next time just say directly that's not so and it'll be easier on my health. Thanks. And

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-19 Thread Batist Paklons
On 19/05/05, Jacobo Tarrio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spanish law says (the ugly translation is mine): The following un-disclaimable and inaliable rights belong to the author: [...] 6. Retiring the work from the market, due to a change in their intellectual or moral convictions, after a payment

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-19 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 5/18/05, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Point taken. However, the GPL clearly states the conditions in section 6: 6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the original licensor to

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-19 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/19/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GPL is anomalous in that the drafter has published a widely believed, but patently false, set of claims about its legal basis in the FSF FAQ. For the record, I disagree that this faq is patently false. It is, in places, a bit

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-19 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 5/19/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/19/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GPL is anomalous in that the drafter has published a widely believed, but patently false, set of claims about its legal basis in the FSF FAQ. For the record, I disagree that this

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-19 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 5/19/05, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://web.archive.org/web/20041130014304/http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html http://web.archive.org/web/20041105024302/http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html Thanks, Roberto. The (moderately) explicit bit I had in mind is in

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-18 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello, (Sorry for just intejecting into the discussion like this, but) >From what I understand of the history of WASTE. At one time, NullSoft did infact release WASTE under the GPL. However, AOL (NullSoft's parent company) didn't like this, and that message on NullSoft's website is because of

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-18 Thread Paul Perpich
This topic has been beat to death and is the cause for most of the devs bailing throughout the life of the project (legal concerns). There are a couple old articles on /. that should cover all the arguments (in the comments)...but I'm sure you'll find them all over. here's one:

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-18 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello, Yes, you are correct. I am assuming that. As far as I can tell, even if AOL didn't approve it, NullSoft, being the owners of the code, are allowed and able to release the code under whatever license they want to release it under. (Whether they'll get in trouble or not from AOL, for doing

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-18 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Charles Iliya Krempeaux] It seem to me that they got in trouble for doing so. And then tried to take things back. But the GPL doesn't allow for that. It seems to me that this is another of those things everyone takes for a postulate just because the FSF said so. Rather like the assumption

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Peter Samuelson wrote: I know at least one developer on a prominent open source project who believes otherwise, and claims to be prepared to revoke their license to her code, if they do certain things to piss her off. Presumably this is grounded on the basis of her having received no

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-18 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/18/05, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is completely not possible. Once you offer (and someone accepts) code under the terms of the GPL, they are for evermore entitled to use *that* code under the GPL. There are some exceptions to this. For example, if you're not the

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-18 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 5/18/05, Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I know at least one developer on a prominent open source project who believes otherwise, and claims to be prepared to revoke their license to her code, if they do certain things to piss her off. Presumably this is grounded on the

Re: [WASTE-dev-public] Do not package WASTE! UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE [Was: Re: Questions about waste licence and code.]

2005-05-18 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 5/18/05, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Samuelson wrote: [snip] Yes, I'm aware that if it's possible to revoke the GPL, it fails the Tentacles of Evil test, and GPL software would be completely unsuitable for any serious deployment. Note, however, that but it *can't*