Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 01:39:16AM +0100, Lewis Jardine wrote: Don't forget SAMBA - it's a reverse-engineer of one of the key intellectual properties of one of the richest, and most sue-happy companies in the entire world. If Microsoft could sue the SAMBA team (and therefore Debian) over

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-24 Thread Måns Rullgård
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wouter Verhelst writes: This is good, but it's not true anywhere else; so if the reverse engineering has been done outside the EU, there's a problem. Reverse-engineering is legal in the USA. And in Norway. -- Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-24 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 01:41:09AM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 01:20:47AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: May I ask you in which country reverse-engineering for compatibility is forbidden? I'm just curious, because it is legal in Poland, but only for

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-24 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:56:09AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I'm just curious, because it is legal in Poland, but only for compatibility reasons, and I guess this situation fits this. That's because Poland is part of the EU now, where it is legal. No. It was legal also

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 11:38:17AM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: The reason why libfasttrack-gift has never been placed into debian is because it doesn't even qualify non-free. Debian could be sued for this, and other reasons due to its reverse engineering. May I ask you in which country

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Dan Weber
Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 11:38:17AM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: The reason why libfasttrack-gift has never been placed into debian is because it doesn't even qualify non-free. Debian could be sued for this, and other reasons due to its reverse engineering. May I

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Josh Triplett
Dan Weber wrote: Specifically, I recall someone saying that the algorithm used by Sherman Networks is Copyrighted. Even though the upstream is reverse engineering it, I don't think its legal to use. Algorithms can't be copyrighted, only specific implementations of an algorithm. Algorithms

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo: May I ask you in which country reverse-engineering for compatibility is forbidden? Probably in none. But publishing your results is not automatically allowed, and sometimes, there are safeguards against producing a clone (which serves as a replacement of the

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On May 23, 2004, at 11:38, Dan Weber wrote: The reason why libfasttrack-gift has never been placed into debian is because it doesn't even qualify non-free. Debian could be sued for this, and other reasons due to its reverse engineering. Debian has plenty of other software in its archives

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 05:52:46PM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 11:38:17AM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: The reason why libfasttrack-gift has never been placed into debian is because it doesn't even qualify non-free. Debian could be sued for this, and other

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 01:20:47AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: May I ask you in which country reverse-engineering for compatibility is forbidden? I'm just curious, because it is legal in Poland, but only for compatibility reasons, and I guess this situation fits this. That's

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread Lewis Jardine
Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: I think that many programs from OpenSource world are made via reverse engineering, and there is no problem with including them in Debian. Consider the most important. Linux kernel. Many drivers are made this way. regards fEnIo Don't forget SAMBA - it's a

Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network

2004-05-23 Thread John Hasler
Wouter Verhelst writes: This is good, but it's not true anywhere else; so if the reverse engineering has been done outside the EU, there's a problem. Reverse-engineering is legal in the USA. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin