Re: GPL, OpenSSL and Non-Free

2004-12-31 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
hmmm, wasn't non-us on different servers? If so, would that work? (does it still even exist?)

Re: GPL, OpenSSL and Non-Free

2004-12-31 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Don Armstrong wrote: However, I've maintained that even if that is the case, we still can't activate this clause because OpenSSL is not normally distributed (in either source or binary form) with the major components. That seems to be the easier half. The major components of Debian are

Re: GPL, OpenSSL and Non-Free

2004-12-31 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 04:03:25PM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: hmmm, wasn't non-us on different servers? If so, would that work? (does it still even exist?) That was the (admittedly rather specious) argument under which we justified ignoring this problem before. With the demolition of

Re: GPL, OpenSSL and Non-Free

2004-12-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Lewis Jardine wrote: /unless that component itself accompanies the executable/. (my emphasis) As I understand it, in a Debian distribution, anything that could qualify for the exception 'accompanies the executable' by virtue of being on the same CD/web server/etc. Is

Re: GPL, OpenSSL and Non-Free

2004-12-29 Thread Florian Weimer
* Paul Hampson: As I understand it, the issue is that anything in the Debian archive is considered to be distributed with Debian, and so the GPL's exception for libraries that come with the OS doesn't apply since the application also comes with the OS. (In GPL's terms, the OS comes with the

Re: GPL, OpenSSL and Non-Free

2004-12-29 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 02:21:24AM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: However, non-free is not part of Debian (as per the social contract) so it would be OK to put GPL'd programs that depend on OpenSSL into non-free? The GPL special exception doesn't care about part of vs. not part of. What matters

Re: GPL, OpenSSL and Non-Free

2004-12-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Paul Hampson wrote: As I understand it, the issue is that anything in the Debian archive is considered to be distributed with Debian, and so the GPL's exception for libraries that come with the OS doesn't apply since the application also comes with the OS. (In GPL's

Re: GPL, OpenSSL and Non-Free

2004-12-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 04:47:06PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Paul Hampson wrote: As I understand it, the issue is that anything in the Debian archive is considered to be distributed with Debian, and so the GPL's exception for libraries that come with the OS doesn't