Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-22 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:45:51AM +, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Josh Triplett [EMAIL PROTECTED] One suggestion: you might be able to make the necessary modifications to BSD yacc, which I think descends from the original UNIX yacc by way of BSD UNIX and the whole ATT vs. BSD

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-21 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Josh Triplett [EMAIL PROTECTED] One suggestion: you might be able to make the necessary modifications to BSD yacc, which I think descends from the original UNIX yacc by way of BSD UNIX and the whole ATT vs. BSD issue. In this particular case, the modifications consist of changing the

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-21 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:45:51AM +, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Josh Triplett [EMAIL PROTECTED] One suggestion: you might be able to make the necessary modifications to BSD yacc, which I think descends from the original UNIX yacc by way of BSD UNIX and the whole ATT vs. BSD

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-21 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:45:51AM +, Henning Makholm wrote In this particular case, the modifications consist of changing the output language from C to something else. That sounds fairly major; the entire parsing engine would have been

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-20 Thread Josh Triplett
Justin Pryzby wrote: On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 08:59:06PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: Justin Pryzby wrote: What kind of license is associated with code produced by Yacc? Presuming this modified yacc isn't trivially replaceable with a Free yacc, this would prevent these packages from being

IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-19 Thread Justin Pryzby
Hello, As you may recall, I am (unofficially) maintaining the IRAF data analysis package. IRAF includes NCAR from UCAR (.. Atmospheric Research). It was previously decided [1] that the license from NCAR was very much not DFSG-free. However, the NCAR routines are now available under the GPL. I

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-19 Thread Justin Pryzby
By the way, I'm not subscribed, please Cc: me. What kind of license is associated with code produced by Yacc? Upstream IRAF apparently has a UNIX source license and uses a modified yacc to produce two of the files. The source includes a README: This directory contains the source for

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-19 Thread Justin Pryzby
This is probably hotly debated, but how do math-algorthm copyrights work? There are lots of these: == ./iraf/math/llsq/original_f/qrbd.f == c subroutine qrbd (ipass,q,e,nn,v,mdv,nrv,c,mdc,ncc) c c.l.lawson and r.j.hanson, jet propulsion laboratory, 1973 jun 12 c to appear in 'solving

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-19 Thread Måns Rullgård
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 03:45:40PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote: This is probably hotly debated, but how do math-algorthm copyrights work? Articles about mathematics, and specific expressions of algorithms, are copyrightable, but the concepts aren't. In

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-19 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 11:29:47PM +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote: And this is probably the reason we have thousands of (probably invalid) software patents instead. Copyright law is only a minor part of that issue. -- Raul

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-19 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 08:59:06PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: Justin Pryzby wrote: What kind of license is associated with code produced by Yacc? Presuming this modified yacc isn't trivially replaceable with a Free yacc, this would prevent these packages from being uploadable to main. I