Re: Licensing requirements ???

On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 19:35, Matthew Palmer wrote: > I'd say "This SLA only applies to the software provided by us. If you > modify any of the supplied software in any way, or add extra software to the > system(s) covered by this warranty, this SLA is null and void and there are > no warranties a

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 08:17, Richard Braakman wrote: > "You may charge a fee for the physical act of transferring a copy, and > you may at your option offer warranty protection in exchange for a fee." > > You can presumably put whatever conditions you like on that warranty > protection, and on wh

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 03:17:19PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > Hmm, there's one point here that others haven't mentioned yet. The > SLAs should not forbid the customers from making modifications to > the GPLed software, because that would contradict section 6 ("You > may not impose any furthe

Re: Licensing requirements ???

Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:10:22:25:34+1000] scribed: >> On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:10:24PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: >> > As I commented in response to David, I had always assumed that, so long >> > as we do not modify source

Re: Licensing requirements ???

Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:10:22:25:34+1000] scribed: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:10:24PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > > As I commented in response to David, I had always assumed that, so long > > as we do not modify source code, GPL allows distribution of this sort. > > Once

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:10:24PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > As I commented in response to David, I had always assumed that, so long > as we do not modify source code, GPL allows distribution of this sort. > Once I read the MySQL licensing page, I have doubts. Eh? Whether you've modified

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 02:01:36PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > Also, in order to manage problems and maintain SLA's, this software is > to be sold as an integral piece of a system -- somewhat of a blackbox. > In other words, their customers will pay one basic price, and receive an > installed

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:03:35PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > Basically, since we are _not_ modifying source to any software, I had > always thought that this is a slam-dunk. However, once I read that > MySQL page, I have doubts. Am I misinterpreting it? You should be aware that that page

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On 2003-10-10 02:10:24 +0100 Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As I commented in response to David, I had always assumed that, so long as we do not modify source code, GPL allows distribution of this sort. Once I read the MySQL licensing page, I have doubts. MySQL would surely like

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On 2003-10-10 01:19:34 +0100 Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MySQL's interface library was changed to GPL, from LGPL. This isn't a no- commecial-use (which would be non-free), but it has the same effect in most cases. Please do not make such misleading statements. There are many c

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:03:35PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > > I am not aware of any MySQL problems; can you give a pointer to > > what you are concerned about? > > Especially Section 3: > > As I understand it, this falls under "linking w

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:03:35PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > > There are other things to watch out for, but you not modifying the > > source of Debian packages, so it shouldn't matter. > Basically, since we are _not_ modifying source to any software, I had > always thought that this is a

Re: Licensing requirements ???

MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:10:01:09:49+0100] scribed: > On 2003-10-09 20:01:36 +0100 Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >My client wants to retain all rights to their software, and is not > >willing to release their software in any `free' software fashion. > > ...so this is

Re: Licensing requirements ???

David Schleef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:09:17:01:55-0700] scribed: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 02:01:36PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > > OK, this is my first foray into a sale-able product, based on `free' > > software. > > Congratulations. > > > I am working with a company that is writing

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 01:09:49AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > ...so this isn't a question about the licence of something that can be > in Debian? I suspect debian-legal is not the best list for this. I think questions like this are reasonable for this list, as long as people don't expect a response,

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 05:01:55PM -0700, David Schleef wrote: > > My client wants to retain all rights to their software, and is not > > willing to release their software in any `free' software fashion. > > > > Also, in order to manage problems and maintain SLA's, this software is > > to be sold

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 02:01:36PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > OK, this is my first foray into a sale-able product, based on `free' > software. Congratulations. > I am working with a company that is writing software that is to be sold > to their customers. I have specified Debian as the OS

Re: Licensing requirements ???

On 2003-10-09 20:01:36 +0100 Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My client wants to retain all rights to their software, and is not willing to release their software in any `free' software fashion. ...so this isn't a question about the licence of something that can be in Debian? I s

Licensing requirements ???

OK, this is my first foray into a sale-able product, based on `free' software. I am working with a company that is writing software that is to be sold to their customers. I have specified Debian as the OS on which this all runs; so, here I am on this list to learn the ropes of `free' software. O