Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-20 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 10:31:30AM +0300, Harri Järvi wrote: It has come to my attention that released Linuxsampler versions up to the latest release 0.3.3 are licensed purely under the GPL. The NON COMMERCIAL-exception has been added to the cvs version and is reflected on the homepage

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-20 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 9/20/05, Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Harald Welte have successfully pursued infringment claims against people who violate the GPL. Einstweilige Verfuegung (ex parte action) != Hauptverfahren (lawsuit). http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/43996.html quote It's a Small

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-20 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 9/20/05, Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/05, Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Harald Welte have successfully pursued infringment claims against people who violate the GPL. Einstweilige Verfuegung (ex parte action) != Hauptverfahren (lawsuit).

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-17 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Lewis Jardine wrote: I believe LGPL 2a (The modified work must itself be a software library), and 2d (...you must make a good faith effort to ensure that, in the event an application does not supply such function or table, the facility still operates...) are 'further restrictions' with

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-17 Thread Harri Järvi
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 10:50:12 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: That is indeed non-free and fails DFSG #6, the package cannot be in main, but could be in non-free maybe. It has come to my attention that released Linuxsampler versions up to the latest release 0.3.3 are licensed purely under the GPL.

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
GPL-incompatible Somewhere in the cyberspace (Shlomi Fish on Monday April 01). A recent press conference of the Free Software Foundation confirmed the rumors that the GNU General Public License was found to be incompatible with itself. This newly discovered fact may actually cause a

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 9/16/05, Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GPL-incompatible http://www.linuxrising.org/files/licensingfaq.html (We paid the FSF to have them provide us these answers. So these answers are verified correct by people like FSF lawyer and law professor Eben Moglen.)

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 9/16/05, Harri Järvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 14:12:34 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote: GPL-incompatible Somewhere in the cyberspace (Shlomi Fish on Monday April 01). That's April Fool's Day. It runs all year long in the GNU Republic. regards, alexander.

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-16 Thread Harri Järvi
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 14:12:34 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote: GPL-incompatible Somewhere in the cyberspace (Shlomi Fish on Monday April 01). That's April Fool's Day. -Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-16 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 16 September 2005 17:22, Alexander Terekhov wrote: On 9/16/05, Harri Järvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 14:12:34 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote: GPL-incompatible Somewhere in the cyberspace (Shlomi Fish on Monday April 01). That's April Fool's Day.

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-16 Thread Lewis Jardine
Alexander Terekhov wrote: On 9/16/05, Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GPL-incompatible I just wonder how can BSD/MIT/... be GPL compatible not having section 3 of the LGPL. I believe LGPL 2a (The modified work must itself be a software library), and 2d (...you must make a good

RE: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-16 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
I just wonder how can BSD/MIT/... be GPL compatible not having section 3 of the LGPL. Everything distributable under the terms of BSD/MIT, is also distributable under the terms of the GPL because BSD/MIT (2 and 3 clauses) is *less* restrictive than the GPL. -- HTH, Massa -- To

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 9/16/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wonder how can BSD/MIT/... be GPL compatible not having section 3 of the LGPL. Everything distributable under the terms of BSD/MIT, is also distributable under the terms of the GPL because BSD/MIT (2 and 3 clauses) is

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-16 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
On 9/16/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wonder how can BSD/MIT/... be GPL compatible not having section 3 of the LGPL. Everything distributable under the terms of BSD/MIT, is also distributable under the terms of the GPL because BSD/MIT (2 and 3

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 9/16/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/16/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wonder how can BSD/MIT/... be GPL compatible not having section 3 of the LGPL. Everything distributable under the terms of BSD/MIT, is also

RE: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-16 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
Derivative source code must stay under original license. You're right that BSD/MIT/... allow sublicensing under different terms for *binary form*... but that's just like the IBM's CPL, for example, which even Microsoft uses and likes (in spite of contractual obligation to provide access to

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-16 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:08:33 -0300 Humberto Massa Guimarães wrote: Derivative source code must stay under original license. You're right that BSD/MIT/... allow sublicensing under different terms for *binary form*... but that's just like the IBM's CPL, for example, which even Microsoft

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 08:03:46AM +0300, Harri Järvi wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 16:26:15 +0200, Göran Weinholt wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:54:35PM +0300, Harri Järvi wrote: In addition there's a conflict between linuxsampler's aim to be an opensource software, and the license

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-15 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
El jueves, 15 de septiembre de 2005 a las 10:50:12 +0200, Sven Luther escribía: LinuxSampler is licensed under the GNU GPL license with the exception that COMMERCIAL USE of the souce code, libraries and applications is NOT ALLOWED without prior written permission by the LinuxSampler

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-15 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
El jueves, 15 de septiembre de 2005 a las 13:07:18 +0300, George Danchev escribía: That is indeed non-free and fails DFSG #6, the package cannot be in main, but could be in non-free maybe. Probably not, according to some interpretations (the GPL does not allow Right, as explained in

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-15 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 12:45:41PM +0200, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: El jueves, 15 de septiembre de 2005 a las 13:07:18 +0300, George Danchev escrib?a: That is indeed non-free and fails DFSG #6, the package cannot be in main, but could be in non-free maybe. Probably not, according to

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-14 Thread Göran Weinholt
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:54:35PM +0300, Harri Järvi wrote: [...] The problem is that the README in linuxsampler says the following thing: This software is distributed under the GNU General Public License (see COPYING file), and may not be used in commercial applications without asking the

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-14 Thread Harri Järvi
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 16:26:15 +0200, Göran Weinholt wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:54:35PM +0300, Harri Järvi wrote: In addition there's a conflict between linuxsampler's aim to be an opensource software, and the license used. Restricting commercial use makes the software

Linuxsampler license

2005-09-13 Thread Harri Järvi
Hello, Linuxsampler is packaged in debian unstable. It would seem to me that Linuxsampler currently is not compatible with DFSG. I hope the readers of this mailing list have more information about this kind of a problem and how to address it with the authors of the software and also with debian.

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-13 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:54:35PM +0300, Harri J?rvi wrote: Hello, Linuxsampler is packaged in debian unstable. It would seem to me that Linuxsampler currently is not compatible with DFSG. Agree. Also it seems to me that Linuxsampler's authors wouldn't be allowed to make the kind of a

Re: Linuxsampler license

2005-09-13 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 01:02:43PM -0400, pryzbyj wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:54:35PM +0300, Harri J?rvi wrote: Hello, Linuxsampler is packaged in debian unstable. It would seem to me that Linuxsampler currently is not compatible with DFSG. Agree. I'm filing a grave bug