Re: Lost sources [was: Re: scientific paper in package only in postscript form non-free?]

2011-03-21 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Don Armstrong wrote: Yes, but this isn't something that a sane upstream is ever going to do, so it's not worth discussing much. [And frankly, if it's something that upstream does do, one should strongly question whether Debian should actually be distributing the work in

Re: Lost sources [was: Re: scientific paper in package only in postscript form non-free?]

2011-03-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 08:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Ken Arromdee wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Don Armstrong wrote: Yes, but this isn't something that a sane upstream is ever going to do, so it's not worth discussing much. [And frankly, if it's something that upstream does do, one should strongly

Re: Lost sources [was: Re: scientific paper in package only in postscript form non-free?]

2011-03-21 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011, Francesco Poli wrote: However, we also have to consider this: in some cases, when the uncompressed form is hundreds of times larger than the compressed form, the former may be really unpractical to handle. In those cases, maybe we prefer to use some compressed form to make

Re: Lost sources [was: Re: scientific paper in package only in postscript form non-free?]

2011-03-20 Thread Mark Weyer
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 03:47:39PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Mark Weyer wrote: Just to make sure there is no misunderstanding, let me rephrase my scenario: Someone modifies a GPLed work, say a program written in C. Between compiling and distributing, he deliberately

Re: Lost sources [was: Re: scientific paper in package only in postscript form non-free?]

2011-03-18 Thread Mark Weyer
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 01:25:57PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Mark Weyer wrote: I always thought that such distribution would be in breach of the GPL, or more generally of copyleft. After all, it is impossible to distinguish, from the outside, between lost and secret

Re: Lost sources [was: Re: scientific paper in package only in postscript form non-free?]

2011-03-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Mark Weyer wrote: Just to make sure there is no misunderstanding, let me rephrase my scenario: Someone modifies a GPLed work, say a program written in C. Between compiling and distributing, he deliberately deletes the C files. Then he distributes the compiled binary. By

Lost sources [was: Re: scientific paper in package only in postscript form non-free?]

2011-03-16 Thread Mark Weyer
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 07:39:58PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:26:39 + (GMT) MJ Ray wrote: Sure, it should be - what happens if [the source] no longer exists? That seems quite possible for a years-old journal paper. This seems to be a FAQ... Well, if some