Re: Public domain and DSFGness

2019-06-13 Thread Landry, Walter
David Given writes: > Example: the command shell I'm using (the CCP in CP/M terminology) is an > enhanced command shell alternative called ZCPR. The first version of this, > ZCPR1, which contains no copyright notice, and which was released in 1982 > to the SIG/M public domain distribut

Re: Public domain and DSFGness

2019-06-12 Thread David Given
open source alternatives and bundling them together. What this is involving is trawling through the archives trying to find free or public domain pieces and piecing them together. Example: the command shell I'm using (the CCP in CP/M terminology) is an enhanced command shell alternative called

Re: Public domain and DSFGness

2019-06-12 Thread Ben Finney
David Given writes: > I'm doing some historical data preservation work […] I'm hoping to be > able to produce a Debian package containing this stuff eventually for > use in emulators. Thank you for promoting the preservation and spread of free software. > Back then people were really slack

Public domain and DSFGness

2019-06-12 Thread David Given
good enough for pretty much everybody. Plus, I'm hoping to be able to produce a Debian package containing this stuff eventually for use in emulators. Back then people were really slack about licensing. Typically you'll see software contributed to a 'public domain' library with no explicit license

Questions regarding public-domain (well, again)

2017-07-17 Thread Lev Lamberov
Hi, i've already wrote that i work on a migration of swi-prolog package to machine-readable d/copyright. I have some more questions and need your advises. There are several files which contain a copyright notice stating that these files are in public domain. Well, I understand the difficulty

Re: sct public domain

2016-06-28 Thread Jacob Adams
singly > common to need that information years later. > Ok. Got permission from Ingo to use his response in the copyright file and the relevant portion now looks like this: Files: sct.c Copyright: 2016 Ted Unangst <t...@openbsd.org> whitepoints data copyright 2013 Ingo Thies

Re: sct public domain

2016-06-27 Thread Ben Finney
Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes: > Jacob Adams writes ("Re: sct public domain"): > > Ok that makes sense. Wasn't sure if public domain was more > > complicated but clearly not. > > "Public domain" is very complicated.

Re: sct public domain

2016-06-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Jacob Adams writes ("Re: sct public domain"): > On 06/24/2016 04:00 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Jacob Adams writes ("sct public domain"): > >> Firstly, the license of sct consists of one line: > >> /* public domain, do as you wish > > > >

Re: sct public domain

2016-06-26 Thread Jacob Adams
On 06/24/2016 04:00 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Jacob Adams writes ("sct public domain"): >> Firstly, the license of sct consists of one line: >> /* public domain, do as you wish > > Seems like a clear enough intent to dedicate to the public domain, > along with a

Re: sct public domain

2016-06-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Jacob Adams writes ("sct public domain"): > Firstly, the license of sct consists of one line: > /* public domain, do as you wish Seems like a clear enough intent to dedicate to the public domain, along with a permission to deal freely. So yes. > Secondly, sct.c c

sct public domain

2016-06-23 Thread Jacob Adams
I am currently packaging the setcolortemperature program (sct) and I have two licensing questions. Firstly, the license of sct consists of one line: /* public domain, do as you wish Is this enough to consider this code to be in the public domain? I maintain this code as upstream but did

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-10-17 Thread Florent Rougon
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: Hello Florent, you can decouple the two issues: - The package is totally redistributable in Debian as it is, you do not need to relicense the files to update to the new upstream release. - You can work on the resolving the apparent

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-10-17 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: I've been a primary proponent of that point of view, and I think it's probably correct. But I wouldn't claim it's *established*; no qualified legal expert has said anything so definite here, I believe. OK, I see. [...] I wouldn't want to

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-10-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Ben Finney writes (Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright): Florent Rougon f.rou...@free.fr writes: It has been established by the mavens from this list that the copyright statements contradict the public domain assertion, and that simply stating This program

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-10-13 Thread Riley Baird
Rather, I think such a declaration is not established to be an effective divestment of copyright in all the jurisdictions where Debian recipients operate, and the risk to them is unacceptable — In addition to what Ian said, Debian already accepts Public Domain software, even though public

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-10-13 Thread Ben Finney
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Ben Finney writes (Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright): Rather, I think such a declaration is not established to be an effective divestment of copyright in all the jurisdictions where Debian recipients operate

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-10-10 Thread Charles Plessy
domain. It has been established by the mavens from this list that the copyright statements contradict the public domain assertion, and that simply stating This program is in the public domain is not enough to make it so in general. As a consequence, I am trying to have the file

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-10-10 Thread Ben Finney
Florent Rougon f.rou...@free.fr writes: It has been established by the mavens from this list that the copyright statements contradict the public domain assertion, and that simply stating This program is in the public domain is not enough to make it so in general. I've been a primary

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-09-17 Thread Florent Rougon
Thank you for your replies. It's a pity that properly releasing something in the public domain is apparently so difficult. The intent here was to make sure that anyone be free to copy anything from this file and use it in derivative works without restriction since it is a demo for a library

Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-09-16 Thread Florent Rougon
Hello, I have a few questions regarding public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright files: 1. I have files in a program with the following copyright statement: # Copyright (C) 2002-2010, 2013, 2014 ... # Copyright (C) 2000 ... # # This program is in the public

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-09-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:18:11AM +0200, Florent Rougon a écrit : 1. I have files in a program with the following copyright statement: # Copyright (C) 2002-2010, 2013, 2014 ... # Copyright (C) 2000 ... # # This program is in the public domain. but, as I

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-09-16 Thread Ben Finney
Florent Rougon f.rou...@free.fr writes: 1. I have files in a program with the following copyright statement: # Copyright (C) 2002-2010, 2013, 2014 ... # Copyright (C) 2000 ... # # This program is in the public domain. but, as I understand it, public domain

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-09-16 Thread Riley Baird
I would recommend the copyright holders re-release the work clearly marked with a license grant of broad attribution-only license conditions; the Apache Software Foundation License 2.0 URL:http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:Apache2.0 is a good one IMO. If they really want public domain

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-09-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Ben Finney writes (Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright): Florent Rougon f.rou...@free.fr writes: 1. I have files in a program with the following copyright statement: # Copyright (C) 2002-2010, 2013, 2014 ... # Copyright (C) 2000

Re: Public domain and DEP-5-compliant debian/copyright

2014-09-16 Thread Ben Finney
by the (purported) copyrightholder. On this I can't see why you modify “copyright holder”. You think this is an effective divestment of copyright in the work? In all Berne Convention jurisdictions where Debian recipients will operate? I don't. It seems clear to me that “This work is in the public

Re: Public Domain again

2013-02-06 Thread Hendrik Weimer
Jérémy Lal kapo...@melix.org writes: Public domain is not a license, its meaning depends on the country you're in. What if that country applies laws that violate DFSG ? I think you have to distinguish between two cases. 1.) Someone releases some code that is accompanied with a statement

Re: Public Domain again

2013-02-05 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013, at 07:56 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: In addition, I'd like to note that's what CC0 is for, really. It has some neat fall-back clauses that trigger in the event a jurisdiction doesn't allow for public domain works as such, and also releases database rights[1] which some

Re: Public Domain again

2013-02-01 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [130201 02:24]: Does this mean there are cases where the work cannot actually be placed into the public domain ? In *most* jurisdictions, it appears to not be possible for a copyright holder to release their work into the public domain. That's why CC0

Re: Public Domain again

2013-02-01 Thread MJ Ray
Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org (So I'd be suprised if any jurisdiction would translate a I hereby place this work in the public domain to anything but either making it public domain where possible or to a full permissive license). Sadly, in the public domain has two meanings: 1

Public Domain again

2013-01-31 Thread Jérémy Lal
http://opensource.org/faq#public-domain http://opensource.org/faq#cc0 Public domain is not a license, its meaning depends on the country you're in. What if that country applies laws that violate DFSG ? Please enlighten me. Jérémy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ

Re: Public Domain again

2013-01-31 Thread MJ Ray
Jérémy. Public domain is not a license, its meaning depends on the country you're in. What if that country applies laws that violate DFSG ? Please enlighten me. Why? Does this affect any software that you're packaging? Short answer: any software in that country is not free software

Re: Public Domain again

2013-01-31 Thread Jérémy Lal
On 31/01/2013 19:45, MJ Ray wrote: Jérémy. Public domain is not a license, its meaning depends on the country you're in. What if that country applies laws that violate DFSG ? Please enlighten me. Why? Does this affect any software that you're packaging? Not particularly. Some packages i

Re: Public Domain again

2013-01-31 Thread Ben Finney
Jérémy Lal kapo...@melix.org writes: Will you still be uploading to main, if one day it becomes illegal in your own country ? Are you taking a poll? Or is there particular interest in MJ Ray's answer? What is the actual issue you're addressing with starting this thread? -- \ “Think

Re: Public Domain again

2013-01-31 Thread Jérémy Lal
with starting this thread? My issue is that i don't understand how public domain is DFSG, and the consequence is that i cannot handle it properly in debian packages. For example, reading [0]: When the License field in a paragraph has the short name public-domain, the remaining lines

Re: Public Domain again

2013-01-31 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013, Jérémy Lal wrote: My issue is that i don't understand how public domain is DFSG, If a work can actually be placed into the public domain, then that usually means that it has no copyright, and therefore automatically satisfies the DFSG so long as there is source

Re: Public Domain again

2013-01-31 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 04:25:21PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 01 Feb 2013, Jérémy Lal wrote: My issue is that i don't understand how public domain is DFSG, If a work can actually be placed into the public domain, then that usually means that it has no copyright, and therefore

Re: Public Domain again

2013-01-31 Thread Jérémy Lal
On 01/02/2013 01:25, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 01 Feb 2013, Jérémy Lal wrote: My issue is that i don't understand how public domain is DFSG, If a work can actually be placed into the public domain Does this mean there are cases where the work cannot actually be placed into the public

Re: Public Domain again

2013-01-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 02:04:26AM +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote: On 01/02/2013 01:25, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 01 Feb 2013, Jérémy Lal wrote: My issue is that i don't understand how public domain is DFSG, If a work can actually be placed into the public domain Does this mean

Re: Public Domain again

2013-01-31 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 02:04:26AM +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote: To be practical, are these files all right to be listed as 'public-domain' in debian/copyright : * without copyright notice Not public domain. Copyrighted without license. If the author hasn't stated anything, then the work

Sita Sings the Blues goes public domain

2013-01-18 Thread Paul Wise
Sita Sings the Blues goes public domain (CC0): http://blog.ninapaley.com/2013/01/18/ahimsa-sita-sings-the-blues-now-cc-0-public-domain/ ... but not DFSG-free. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Sita Sings the Blues goes public domain

2013-01-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 06:34:35AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Sita Sings the Blues goes public domain (CC0): http://blog.ninapaley.com/2013/01/18/ahimsa-sita-sings-the-blues-now-cc-0-public-domain/ ... but not DFSG-free. In what way is CC-0 not dfsg-free? -- Steve Langasek

Re: Sita Sings the Blues goes public domain

2013-01-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: In what way is CC-0 not dfsg-free? Perhaps I should have said not suitable for Debian main; the source code is not buildable/modifiable/readable using Debian main since it requires Adobe Flash.

Re: public domain no modification: Expat

2012-04-13 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
FYI, upstream agreed to change the pseudo public domain license into an MIT one (expat): http://math.hws.edu/javamath/ Thanks everyone for comments/suggestions. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Francesco Poli invernom...@paranoici.org wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 15:10:26 -0700 Steve Langasek

Re: public domain no modification: Expat

2012-04-13 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:05:56 +0200 Mathieu Malaterre wrote: FYI, upstream agreed to change the pseudo public domain license into an MIT one (expat): http://math.hws.edu/javamath/ This seems to be great news! :-) I hope the new license (Expat/MIT) applies to all the files in the package

Re: public domain no modification

2012-04-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 15:10:26 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:01:45AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] That's not my understanding of the issue under consideration: more details are included in my own analysis [1]. Yes, because as usual your analysis is way out in

Re: public domain no modification

2012-04-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 05:05:27PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: I am working on the package for Java Components for Mathematics (#667923). Some files are distributed with a clear public domain type license: This source code file, and compiled classes derived from it, can be used

Re: public domain no modification

2012-04-09 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:29:31 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 05:05:27PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: [...] Clearly §2 is meant to distinguish derived work from original work. However in our case, this means this package will have to have its name change whenever we

Re: public domain no modification

2012-04-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:01:45AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 05:05:27PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: Clearly §2 is meant to distinguish derived work from original work. However in our case, this means this package will have to have its name change whenever

Re: public domain no modification

2012-04-09 Thread Walter Landry
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:01:45AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 05:05:27PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: Clearly §2 is meant to distinguish derived work from original work. However in our case, this means this package

public domain no modification

2012-04-07 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Hi all, I am working on the package for Java Components for Mathematics (#667923). Some files are distributed with a clear public domain type license: This source code file, and compiled classes derived from it, can be used and distributed without restriction, including for commercial use

Re: public domain no modification

2012-04-07 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 17:05:27 +0200 Mathieu Malaterre wrote: Hi all, Hi Mathieu, thanks for taking this issue seriously. I am working on the package for Java Components for Mathematics (#667923). Some files are distributed with a clear public domain type license: This source code file

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-20 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org [110120 15:51]: Here is for instance most of the content of the copyright file of the ncbi-tools6 package: Copyright: The NCBI toolkit has been put into the public domain, completely unfettered: PUBLIC DOMAIN NOTICE

Wording for public domain

2010-10-20 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
// To the extent possible under law, X x...@xxx // has waived all copyright and related or neighboring rights to this work. Is this wording valid to be considered as Public Domain? Thanks -- José Carlos García Sogo    js...@debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ

Re: Wording for public domain

2010-10-20 Thread Ben Finney
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo jcs...@gmail.com writes: Is this wording valid to be considered as Public Domain? It's rather difficult to effectively place a work in the public domain. Copyright laws nowadays are extremely sticky in their applicability, and it's hard to avoid that. Try the Creative

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-12-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bernhard R. Link: * Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081104 21:29]: Word on the street is that you can't effectively disclaim warranty while putting something in the public domain. Well, as we are discussing the German POV, as German you cannot disclaim warrenty effectively at all as far

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-16 Thread MJ Ray
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le samedi 15 novembre 2008 à 14:25 +, MJ Ray a écrit : Also, I'm disappointed that WTFPLv2 is so long. [...] I'm no longer sure whether this is a joke. What made you think this was a joke to begin with? I don't know. I thought it might be

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-15 Thread MJ Ray
Cyril Brulebois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WTFPL (http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/) to the rescue? As I understand it, that also doesn't work for German residents because the recipient doesn't have to accept the lack of warranty. Expat-style seems safer to me. Also, I'm disappointed that WTFPLv2 is so

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 15 novembre 2008 à 14:25 +, MJ Ray a écrit : Also, I'm disappointed that WTFPLv2 is so long. Why do people need to care about Sam Hocevar's name, address and permission to change it? It seems obviously below the creative threshold for copyright... I'm no longer sure whether

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-11 Thread Jens Peter Secher
2008/11/3 Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] This also doesn't disclaim warranty, which might be dangerous for someone distributing programs. Is there actually any evidence (ie., court decision) to support this? Cheers, -- Jens Peter

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] (05/11/2008): You can't make something PD in Germany, that just doesn't work with our laws. You should also NOT create new licenses / new words for things, that makes it just unneccessarily complex, for example if people want to bundle stuff together. Even if

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-05 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why have the free license as fallback? I advise you to simplify: Work *with* the fact that you've got copyright, and license the work accordingly. After all this seems to be the best, although I

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see anything wrong with authors not being able to give up their moral rights. Why do you think this needs fixing? Some people clearly want to be able to. The OP for example. -- bye, pabs

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-04 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081103 19:50]: Can I as a German use the following Public Domain-declaration-text, if I want the result to be dfsg-free? I, the creator of this work, hereby release it into the public domain. This applies worldwide. In case this is not legally possible

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-04 Thread jfr . fg
but I fail to see what a I hereby place this work in the public domain. fails to do. In Germany there is no possibility to waive copyright. You neither can give it to somebody other nor to the public. So this attention is possibly void, and it's unsure, what a random German court would decide

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-04 Thread Florian Weimer
* Paul Wise: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see anything wrong with authors not being able to give up their moral rights. Why do you think this needs fixing? Some people clearly want to be able to. The OP for example. Why wouldn't it be

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-04 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081104 21:29]: Word on the street is that you can't effectively disclaim warranty while putting something in the public domain. Well, as we are discussing the German POV, as German you cannot disclaim warrenty effectively at all as far as I do understand

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-04 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081104 21:09]: but I fail to see what a I hereby place this work in the public domain. fails to do. In Germany there is no possibility to waive copyright. You can give licenses. You cannot give up authorship. There is no direkt translation

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-04 Thread Ben Finney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you have the option to decide on a license, it's probably far simpler to *retain* copyright as per default, and grant the recipient a do-just-about-anything license like the Expat license Is there any problem with the by default Public Domain Declaration

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-04 Thread Ben Finney
effectively disclaim warranty while putting something in the public domain. References please? Do you contend that still holds true for works that are licensed without fee? -- \“To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make | `\you something else is the greatest

Header fields and followup address (was: Public Domain for Germans)

2008-11-04 Thread Ben Finney
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PS: What's wrong with using a Mail-Followup-To: header? (That's “header field”. Remember, folks: an email message has, as specified in RFC 2822, exactly *one* header, consisting of multiple fields.) I can see two reasons: It's non-standard. It is not

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-04 Thread jfr . fg
I don't know of any default Public Domain Declaration. There are countless variations, with none of them being common enough IME to warrant default. _by_ default, not default. Why have the free license as fallback? I advise you to simplify: Work *with* the fact that you've got copyright

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-04 Thread Ben Finney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why have the free license as fallback? I advise you to simplify: Work *with* the fact that you've got copyright, and license the work accordingly. After all this seems to be the best, although I like the Idea to give up copyright. So do I. I encourage both

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-04 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11558 March 1977, jfr fg wrote: Can I as a German use the following Public Domain-declaration-text, if I want the result to be dfsg-free? I, the creator of this work, hereby release it into the public domain. This applies worldwide. In case this is not legally possible, I grant any

Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-03 Thread jfr . fg
Can I as a German use the following Public Domain-declaration-text, if I want the result to be dfsg-free? I, the creator of this work, hereby release it into the public domain. This applies worldwide. In case this is not legally possible, I grant any entity the right to use this work for any

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-03 Thread Ben Finney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I as a German use the following Public Domain-declaration-text, if I want the result to be dfsg-free? I, the creator of this work, hereby release it into the public domain. This applies worldwide. In case this is not legally possible, I grant any entity

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-03 Thread Paul Wise
. The Creative Commons group is working towards CC0 - a public domain dedication with a twist of license grant for those jurisdictions where it isn't possible to waive copyright. Hopefully it will serve well until those jurisdictions are fixed. http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CC0 http

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* Paul Wise: The Creative Commons group is working towards CC0 - a public domain dedication with a twist of license grant for those jurisdictions where it isn't possible to waive copyright. Hopefully it will serve well until those jurisdictions are fixed. I don't see anything wrong

Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* jfr fg: Can I as a German use the following Public Domain-declaration-text, if I want the result to be dfsg-free? Yes, but the work won't be public domain after that. It's likely that it will be interpreted by the courts as granting non-exclusive exploitation rights to everyone

Re: public domain, take ∞

2008-10-20 Thread Ben Finney
Please excuse the thread necromancy. Hopefully it's better to demonstrate that I've searched the archives than not :-) Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [regarding an attempt to formulate a generally-applicable copyright declaration achieving the effect of public domain] The author

Re: public domain, take ∞

2008-10-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For works that are not a script, or that have copyright holders who are not an author, would this be a further improvement: The copyright holder of this work hereby grants irrevocable permission to any party who may

Re: public domain, take ∞

2008-10-20 Thread Ben Pfaff
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For works that are not a “script”, or that have copyright holders who are not an “author”, would this be a further improvement: The copyright holder of this work hereby grants irrevocable permission to any party who may have access to it to threat

Re: Is this translation in the Public Domain?

2007-11-21 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Mohammad Derakhshani wrote: This Urdu translation is made by Ahmed Rida Khan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Rida_Khan Although the author died in 1921, I am not sure if the translation is in the Public Domain. Probably. First, the work was translated in 1910 [1] and India apparently

Re: Is this translation in the Public Domain?

2007-11-21 Thread John Halton
On 21/11/2007, Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mohammad Derakhshani wrote: This Urdu translation is made by Ahmed Rida Khan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Rida_Khan Although the author died in 1921, I am not sure if the translation is in the Public Domain. Probably

Is this translation in the Public Domain?

2007-11-20 Thread Mohammad Derakhshani
is in the Public Domain. I would like to know if this translation is eligible for being merged to free/non-free repositories of Debian. Would you please kindly guide me in this issue? Regards, Mohammad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: public domain, take ∞

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Daniel Gimpelevich wrote: Greetings! I'm fully aware that the opinions stated on this list have no bearing on anything, but I would still like to ask whether anyone here might have any ideas for improving the wording of the following license header: #!bin/bash # # Let this be known to

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
posted mailed Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: Ben Finney wrote: Perhaps the statement should be granting the recipient all rights otherwise reserved to the copyright holder. Maybe it's better to reformulate it as a non-assert instead of a license. There's more than just the exclusive rights.

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-29 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Ben Finney wrote: Perhaps the statement should be granting the recipient all rights otherwise reserved to the copyright holder. Maybe it's better to reformulate it as a non-assert instead of a license. There's more than just the exclusive rights. To the extent permitted by law, the copyright

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-28 Thread Ben Pfaff
Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The standard replacement for this problem is something along the lines of: The author(s) of this script expressly place it in the public domain. In jurisdictions where this is not legally possible, the author(s) place no restrictions on this script's

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-28 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 9/28/06, Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about modification and distribution? To be more explicit you could say 'usage, modification, or distribution.' -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrewdonnellan.com http://ajdlinux.blogspot.com Jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG - hkp://subkeys.pgp.net

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-28 Thread Ben Finney
Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 9/28/06, Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about modification and distribution? To be more explicit you could say 'usage, modification, or distribution.' Since, as investigation into copyright laws outside the US has found, even

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-27 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 9/26/06, Markus Laire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would just recommend to anyone who wants to PD something to just put a 'No Rights Reserved' license, as it is legally unambiguous and works in pretty much all jurisdictions. Do you have any example of such a 'No Rights Reserved' license? I

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-26 Thread MJ Ray
Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The standard replacement for this problem is something along the lines of: The author(s) of this script expressly place it in the public domain. In jurisdictions where this is not legally possible, the author(s) place no restrictions on this script's

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 9/26/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The standard replacement for this problem is something along the lines of: The author(s) of this script expressly place it in the public domain. In jurisdictions where this is not legally possible

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-26 Thread Markus Laire
On 9/26/06, Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/26/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The standard replacement for this problem is something along the lines of: The author(s) of this script expressly place it in the public domain

public domain, take ∞

2006-09-25 Thread Daniel Gimpelevich
Greetings! I'm fully aware that the opinions stated on this list have no bearing on anything, but I would still like to ask whether anyone here might have any ideas for improving the wording of the following license header: #!bin/bash # # Let this be known to all concerned: It is the specific

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
... What about: The author(s) of this script expressly place it into the public domain. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-25 Thread luna
On Le Monday 25 September 2006, à 16:21:24, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: What about: The author(s) of this script expressly place it into the public domain. As yet said on this list, this notion of (and the words) public domain is not common to all countries and more where it exists it can

Re: public domain, take ∞

2006-09-25 Thread Daniel Gimpelevich
cut the ribbon opening this to the free-for-all of opinions... What about: The author(s) of this script expressly place it into the public domain. Regards, -Roberto Looking through the list archives, I saw that it was recently stated here that the wording you just suggested may

Re: public domain, take ∞

2006-09-25 Thread Daniel Gimpelevich
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:01:51 +1000, Andrew Donnellan wrote: On 9/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Le Monday 25 September 2006, à 16:21:24, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: What about: The author(s) of this script expressly place it into the public domain. As yet said

Re: public domain, take ∞

2006-09-25 Thread Daniel Gimpelevich
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:43:22 -0700, Daniel Gimpelevich wrote: PS-Please fix your mutt and/or terminal config, as the subject line should read: public domain, take ∞ not: public domain, take ?$B!g Never mind, as it appears that UTF-8 interoperability between the Debian mailing lists

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