* Bernhard R. Link:
> * Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081104 21:29]:
>> Word on the street is that you can't effectively disclaim warranty
>> while putting something in the public domain.
>
> Well, as we are discussing the German POV, as German you cannot disclaim
> warrenty effectively at a
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le samedi 15 novembre 2008 à 14:25 +, MJ Ray a écrit :
> > Also, I'm disappointed that WTFPLv2 is so long. [...]
> > I'm no longer sure whether this is a joke.
>
> What made you think this was a joke to begin with?
I don't know. I thought it migh
Le samedi 15 novembre 2008 à 14:25 +, MJ Ray a écrit :
> Also, I'm disappointed that WTFPLv2 is so long. Why do people need to
> care about Sam Hocevar's name, address and permission to change it?
> It seems obviously below the creative threshold for copyright...
>
> I'm no longer sure whethe
Cyril Brulebois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> WTFPL (http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/) to the rescue?
As I understand it, that also doesn't work for German residents
because the recipient doesn't have to accept the lack of warranty.
Expat-style seems safer to me.
Also, I'm disappointed that WTFPLv2 is so
2008/11/3 Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
[...]
> This also doesn't disclaim warranty,
> which might be dangerous for someone distributing programs.
>
Is there actually any evidence (ie., court decision) to support this?
Cheers,
--
Jens Pete
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Finney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Why have the free license as fallback?
> I advise you to simplify: Work *with* the fact that you've got
copyright,
> and license the work accordingly.
After all this seems to be the best,
although
Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (05/11/2008):
> You can't make something PD in Germany, that just doesn't work with
> our laws.
>
> You should also NOT create new licenses / new words for things, that
> makes it just unneccessarily complex, for example if people want to
> bundle stuff together. E
On 11558 March 1977, jfr fg wrote:
> Can I as a German use the following Public Domain-declaration-text,
> if I want the result to be dfsg-free?
> I, the creator of this work,
> hereby release it into the public domain.
> This applies worldwide.
> In case this is not legally possible,
> I gran
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > Why have the free license as fallback?
> > I advise you to simplify: Work *with* the fact that you've got
> copyright,
> > and license the work accordingly.
>
> After all this seems to be the best,
> although I like the Idea to give up copyright.
So do I. I encour
> I don't know of any "default Public Domain Declaration". There are
> countless variations, with none of them being common enough IME to
> warrant "default".
"_by_ default", not "default".
> Why have the free license as fallback?
> I advise you to simplify: Work *with* the fact that you've got
c
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> PS: What's wrong with using a Mail-Followup-To: header?
(That's “header field”. Remember, folks: an email message has, as
specified in RFC 2822, exactly *one* header, consisting of multiple
fields.)
I can see two reasons:
It's non-standard. It is not
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Ben Finney:
>
> > It's not clear that “use” is enough; it doesn't specify copy,
> > modify, or redistribute rights. This also doesn't disclaim
> > warranty, which might be dangerous for someone distributing
> > programs.
>
> Word on the street is th
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >If you have the option to decide on a license, it's probably far
> >simpler to *retain* copyright as per default, and grant the
> >recipient a do-just-about-anything license like the Expat license
>
> Is there any problem with the by default Public Domain Declaration,
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081104 21:09]:
> >but I fail to see what a
>
> >"I hereby place this work in the public domain."
>
> >fails to do.
>
> In Germany there is no possibility to waive copyright.
You can give licenses. You cannot give up authorship. There is no
direkt translatio
* Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081104 21:29]:
> Word on the street is that you can't effectively disclaim warranty
> while putting something in the public domain.
Well, as we are discussing the German POV, as German you cannot disclaim
warrenty effectively at all as far as I do understand i
* Paul Wise:
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I don't see anything wrong with authors not being able to give up
>> their moral rights. Why do you think this needs fixing?
>
> Some people clearly want to be able to. The OP for example.
Why wouldn't
* Ben Finney:
> It's not clear that “use” is enough; it doesn't specify copy,
> modify, or redistribute rights. This also doesn't disclaim warranty,
> which might be dangerous for someone distributing programs.
Word on the street is that you can't effectively disclaim warranty
while putting somet
>but I fail to see what a
>"I hereby place this work in the public domain."
>fails to do.
In Germany there is no possibility to waive copyright.
You neither can give it to somebody other nor to the public.
So this attention is possibly void, and it's unsure, what a random German court
would dec
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081103 19:50]:
> Can I as a German use the following Public Domain-declaration-text,
> if I want the result to be dfsg-free?
>
> I, the creator of this work,
> hereby release it into the public domain.
> This applies worldwide.
> In case this is not legally
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't see anything wrong with authors not being able to give up
> their moral rights. Why do you think this needs fixing?
Some people clearly want to be able to. The OP for example.
--
bye,
pabs
http://wiki.debian.o
* Paul Wise:
> The Creative Commons group is working towards CC0 - a public domain
> dedication with a twist of license grant for those jurisdictions where
> it isn't possible to waive copyright. Hopefully it will serve well
> until those jurisdictions are fixed.
I don't see anything wrong with a
* jfr fg:
> Can I as a German use the following Public Domain-declaration-text,
> if I want the result to be dfsg-free?
Yes, but the work won't be public domain after that. It's likely that
it will be interpreted by the courts as granting non-exclusive
exploitation rights to everyone.
--
To U
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Past discussions in this forum have also revealed that copyright is
> now so insidious that divesting oneself of copyright seems to be
> almost impossible to perform in many jurisdictions, even with
> statements like the above
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Can I as a German use the following Public Domain-declaration-text,
> if I want the result to be dfsg-free?
>
> I, the creator of this work,
> hereby release it into the public domain.
> This applies worldwide.
> In case this is not legally possible,
> I grant any
Can I as a German use the following Public Domain-declaration-text,
if I want the result to be dfsg-free?
I, the creator of this work,
hereby release it into the public domain.
This applies worldwide.
In case this is not legally possible,
I grant any entity the right to use this work for any p
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