Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-11 Thread Andrew Saunders
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:43:49 -0500, Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't avoiding it at all; the DFSG was not renamed to the Debian Free Stuff Guidelines. It merely makes it clear that documentation is included in software, at least as far as the SC is concerned. I don't think

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-11 Thread Francesco Poli
On 11 Feb 2005 01:15:42 GMT MJ Ray wrote: The FSF have a vague definition of what they consider free *documentation* and the main difference with free software is I don't believe that it is essential for people to have permission to modify all sorts of articles and books.

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 10:58:46AM +, Andrew Saunders wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:43:49 -0500, Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't avoiding it at all; the DFSG was not renamed to the Debian Free Stuff Guidelines. It merely makes it clear that documentation is included

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-11 Thread Josh King
Josh King wrote: Hi, I searched Google and the archives for this, but never found a solid answer. I, along with a few others, would like to start a website using the Debian name in the domain (we're using DotDebian.org as a working name for right now). The goal/intent of the site is to provide

Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread Josh King
Hi, I searched Google and the archives for this, but never found a solid answer. I, along with a few others, would like to start a website using the Debian name in the domain (we're using DotDebian.org as a working name for right now). The goal/intent of the site is to provide new user

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Saunders
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:04:08 -0600, Josh King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The goal/intent of the site is to provide new user friendly forums This part sounds like unnecessary duplication of effort. There are already a great many such forums in existence, not least http://forums.debian.net. What

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread MJ Ray
Andrew Saunders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] in light of the disagreements between Debian and the FSF over what constitutes a Free license (the GNU Free Documentation License being one prominent example[1]). That's not the disagreement, as far as I can tell. I know we're lazy, but free is

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread MJ Ray
Josh King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there another license then that should be used in place of the GFDL? Creative Commons? Something else? I think the usual advice is for simple contributions to be licensed under a permissive non-copyleft (like MIT/X11) and full manuals to be put under the

Re: Use of the Debian name for websites

2005-02-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 02:38:07AM +, Andrew Saunders wrote: I likewise believe that documentation is a subset of software, but the interminable debates on the topic convinced me that GR 2004-03's approach to resolving the ambiguity is the correct one - e.g. changing 1. Debian Will Remain