Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
The title of this thread made me think, Gee, I'd love to conquer relicensing. I'm certainly not a relicensing master yet. :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm new dealing with licenses and I've been trying to catch up, however I need advice. Edward M Barlow wrote conquer, a middle

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Joe Smith wrote: Juan M. Mendez wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, I have been investigating. It seems Adam Bryant developed a new version 5 of conquer: http://www.cs.bu.edu/ftp/fs/pub/adb/beta/ where all the files hold notices disallowing redistribution of the code with a

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Juan M. Mendez wrote: On 10/9/06, Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without a piece of paper with Adam's signature saying otherwise, the copyright remains with him. So Ed should ensure he does not change the copyright notice. snip So, I have been investigating. It seems Adam

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-11 Thread Joe Smith
Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Poole wrote: Arnoud Engelfriet writes: However I didn't see a signature in the text file. Only the guy's name. At least in the US, the relevant law (why I mentioned affirmative acts) is what make

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-10 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Michael Poole wrote: Arnoud Engelfriet writes: However I didn't see a signature in the text file. Only the guy's name. At least in the US, the relevant law (why I mentioned affirmative acts) is what make click-through agreements binding -- the act of clicking is the user's electronic

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-10 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Juan M. Mendez wrote: Being completely reworks for the game, could it be safe to relicense version 4, no matter what Adam did with version 5? If version 4 and version 5 have competely different codebases and were written by different people, then the author of version 4 can do whatever he

conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all, I'm new dealing with licenses and I've been trying to catch up, however I need advice. Edward M Barlow wrote conquer, a middle earth multi-player curses based game, and posted it in USENET at comp.sources.games around 1987 and 1988. Later Adam Bryant contributing with code and patching

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Michael Poole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I'm new dealing with licenses and I've been trying to catch up, however I need advice. Edward M Barlow wrote conquer, a middle earth multi-player curses based game, and posted it in USENET at comp.sources.games around 1987 and 1988. Later Adam Bryant

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Michael Poole wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * The following file trade.c was written by Adam Bryant who * gives all rights to this code to Ed Barlow provided that this * message remains intact. IANAL, but this looks like an effective conveyance of copyright to me. I would rather read

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Juan M. Mendez
On 10/9/06, Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without a piece of paper with Adam's signature saying otherwise, the copyright remains with him. So Ed should ensure he does not change the copyright notice. That brings me a new issue, with more doubts, so I reproduce the messages I had

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Michael Poole
Arnoud Engelfriet writes: Michael Poole wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * The following file trade.c was written by Adam Bryant who * gives all rights to this code to Ed Barlow provided that this * message remains intact. IANAL, but this looks like an effective conveyance of copyright

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Juan M. Mendez wrote: My doubt is, how this license transfering of the Adam Bryant code could affect the old code of version 4 of conquer released in 1988 in USENET, the one that Ed allowed me to relicense as Free Software. That really depends on what Adam put in his contract with that gaming

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Joe Smith
Juan M. Mendez wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, I have been investigating. It seems Adam Bryant developed a new version 5 of conquer: http://www.cs.bu.edu/ftp/fs/pub/adb/beta/ where all the files hold notices disallowing redistribution of the code with a notice starting with.

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Michael Poole wrote: Arnoud Engelfriet writes: Without a piece of paper with Adam's signature saying otherwise, the copyright remains with him. So Ed should ensure he does not change the copyright notice. This is certainly a curious definition of writing and signature -- which is to

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Michael Poole
Arnoud Engelfriet writes: Michael Poole wrote: Arnoud Engelfriet writes: Without a piece of paper with Adam's signature saying otherwise, the copyright remains with him. So Ed should ensure he does not change the copyright notice. This is certainly a curious definition of writing and

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Juan M. Mendez
So, as a briefing, it seems an electronic permission can be enough, the same licenses are now for source code. And about conquer, I talked againt to Ed, it seems he keeps the right of version 4, and it was version 5 the one that Bryant developed and probably used with that company. Being