Re: [copyright law wackyness]

2012-01-06 Thread Martin Husovec
Hi All, > It discusses the problems of CC and GPL licensing in Slovakia. Please > note that overall problem is not only about written form of license > (also signed email are written form - thus its not the same as paper > form), but more about the rules that govern formation of the contract. >

Re: [copyright law wackyness]

2012-01-06 Thread Martin Husovec
NGOs + now FSFE supported and pushes for change. If you have any question, just send me an email. Best, Martin http://husovec.blogspot.com/ > Message transféré > De: Paul Wise > À: debian-legal > Sujet: copyright law wackyness > Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:51:10 +0

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-29 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Bernhard R. Link wrote: > The details in that pdf are quite sparse, but I'd suspect someone > misunderstood something there. Needing the written form sounds much more > like something needed for exclusive licensing (which in countries with > "moral rights" is the equivalent of a transfer of copyrig

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bernhard R. Link: > * Florian Weimer [111225 18:30]: >> Germany has the same problem, I think, because in order to protect >> authors from distributors (which are often quasi-monopolistic), there >> are limits to what license grants authors can make. As a result, a >> similar situation could t

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-25 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Florian Weimer [111225 18:30]: > Germany has the same problem, I think, because in order to protect > authors from distributors (which are often quasi-monopolistic), there > are limits to what license grants authors can make. As a result, a > similar situation could theoretically arise. My fav

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-25 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Paul Wise [111223 06:51]: > I read an extraordinary claim about the GPL on IRC and during the > ensuing discussions I discovered a couple of countries with unusual > copyright law. > > In Slovakia apparently license grants have to be "in writing", meaning > most software licenses have no effect

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-25 Thread Florian Weimer
* Paul Wise: > Anyone else know of any weird copyright law around the world? The main problem here is that authors might change their mind and try to extract compensation from users which appear to be in compliance with the license, right? Germany has the same problem, I think, because in order

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-25 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ben Finney: > You don't have to agree to the party licensing a work to you under the > Expat (for example) license terms; but you have the license in that work > regardless. Over here, such licensing texts are usually interpreted as offers to enter a contract (under the specified terms), which

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-23 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Harshman writes: > On Dec 22, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > > The other part is less clear to me and it refers to contracts rather > > than licenses, but the document author seems to think it applies to > > the GPL. > > How is a license not a contract? Under most definitions of co

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-23 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:21:35 -0800 Chris Harshman wrote: > On Dec 22, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > > The other part is less clear to me and it refers to contracts rather > > than licenses, but the document author seems to think it applies to > > the GPL. > > How is a license not a contr

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-23 Thread Chris Harshman
On Dec 22, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > The other part is less clear to me and it refers to contracts rather > than licenses, but the document author seems to think it applies to > the GPL. How is a license not a contract? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-23 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
Paul Wise, 2011-12-23 07:33+0100: > The other part is less clear to me and it refers to contracts rather > than licenses, but the document author seems to think it applies to > the GPL. I always saw licenses as contracts between an author an licensees, by which the author grants them some rights t

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-23 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
Paul Wise, 2011-12-23 06:51+0100: > In Slovakia apparently license grants have to be "in writing" […] Just to be sure, what exactly does “in writing” mean? Does it mean “written with ink on paper made of tree wood or carved in stone” or something like that which would exclude any electric or magne

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Note that (as Paul implies) it is *copyright law* which restricts. A > license is effectively a special relaxation of the restrictions in > copyright law. > > That's why we go to such pedantic efforts to make sure the license for a > work exists

Re: copyright law wackyness

2011-12-22 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Wise writes: > In Slovakia apparently license grants have to be "in writing", meaning > most software licenses have no effect Note that (as Paul implies) it is *copyright law* which restricts. A license is effectively a special relaxation of the restrictions in copyright law. That's why we

copyright law wackyness

2011-12-22 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all, I read an extraordinary claim about the GPL on IRC and during the ensuing discussions I discovered a couple of countries with unusual copyright law. In Slovakia apparently license grants have to be "in writing", meaning most software licenses have no effect and anyone participating in Fre