Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-05 Thread Humberto Massa
Marek Habersack wrote, among other interesting stuff: [T]he thing at stake is the use of OpenSSL or Cryptlib[1] in the Caudium[2] project. Looking at [2], I see clauses which make cryptlib not compatible with clauses #5 and #6 of the DFSG. Huh? I see no such clauses[1], unless you're

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Humberto Massa
Marek Habersack wrote: Hey all, I know it belongs in debian-legal, but I'm not inclined enough to join yet another mailing list which I will read few and far between, so I will take the liberty to ask my question here. You are right, your questions are better asked in debian-legal, with a

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004, Marek Habersack wrote: I know it belongs in debian-legal, but I'm not inclined enough to join yet another mailing list which I will read few and far between, so I will take the liberty to ask my question here. In cases like these, please set Mail-Followup-To: so you'll be

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Marek Habersack
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 02:45:12PM -0300, Humberto Massa scribbled: Do Cc: me on the replies, thank you [snip] It's simple - how is it possible that most licenses used by free software are incompatible [1] with GPL and yet debian mixes them in many projects it distributes (like mozilla,

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Humberto Massa
Marek Habersack wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 02:45:12PM -0300, Humberto Massa scribbled: Do Cc: me on the replies, thank you [snip] It's simple - how is it possible that most licenses used by free software are incompatible [1] with GPL and yet debian mixes them in many projects it

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Marek Habersack
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 03:39:59PM -0300, Humberto Massa scribbled: Marek Habersack wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 02:45:12PM -0300, Humberto Massa scribbled: Do Cc: me on the replies, thank you [snip] It's simple - how is it possible that most licenses used by free software are

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Marek Habersack
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 10:08:11AM -0800, Don Armstrong scribbled: [snip] It's simple - how is it possible that most licenses used by free software are incompatible [1] with GPL and yet debian mixes them in many projects it distributes (like mozilla, php, apache to name the most prominent

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004, Marek Habersack wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 10:08:11AM -0800, Don Armstrong scribbled: You (in general) can't incorporate code which is under a license that is incompatible with the GPL to create a derivative work under the GPL unless you yourself are the copyright

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Marek Habersack
OK, the thing at stake is the use of OpenSSL or Cryptlib[1] in the Caudium[2] project. Looking at [2], I see clauses which make cryptlib not compatible with clauses #5 and #6 of the DFSG. The license is a BSD one, that's clear, but the terms of use and usage conditions seem to restrict the

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Måns Rullgård
Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's fine, but read what does the copyright say exactly: Some files in this source package are under the Netscape Public License Others, under the Mozilla Public license, and just to confuse you even more, some are dual licensed MPL/GPL. That

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Marek Habersack
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 11:53:46AM -0800, Don Armstrong scribbled: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004, Marek Habersack wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 10:08:11AM -0800, Don Armstrong scribbled: You (in general) can't incorporate code which is under a license that is incompatible with the GPL to create a

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004, Marek Habersack wrote: if we have two source files A and B producing object files A and B, with both of them calling (linking to in effect) some GPL API, A being derived from B (e.g. a C++ class that descends from a class defined in B), A being MPL and B being GPL? If A

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Marek Habersack
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 01:06:20PM -0800, Don Armstrong scribbled: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004, Marek Habersack wrote: if we have two source files A and B producing object files A and B, with both of them calling (linking to in effect) some GPL API, A being derived from B (e.g. a C++ class that

Re: licensing confusion

2004-03-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004, Marek Habersack wrote: What makes it more serious this time, is the heading - which says usage conditions - that's a pretty strong statement. Yeah, but this is on a website, not the actual code. What matters are the copyright statements on the code and the license that they