Re: To MPL or not.

2005-09-18 Thread MJ Ray
George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] MJ Ray, please would you be so kind to add your pointers about MPL and IDPL at: http://people.debian.org/~mjr/legal/licences.html It may appear there once the dust has settled on this discussion. Its next stop should be legal/dlpl0509 if all goes

Re: Pre-ITP - LARN and Noah Morgan

2005-09-18 Thread MJ Ray
Alex Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been unable to contact Don Kneller so far, so I'm currently expecting to backport recent patches onto Noah's upstream version. Before I do that, I'd appreciate feedback on whether the text below is sufficient to explain the copyright and licensing

Re: celestia and JPL license

2005-09-18 Thread Joe Smith
Mathias Weyland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Some time ago I adopted the celestia package. The package contains textures which seem not to be DFSG free. (see bug #174456). It looks like the main problem is the NASA's JPL license[1]. I have two options now:

Re: Warzone data file

2005-09-18 Thread Joe Smith
Using the words 'This source code' rather than 'the source code' implies the statement aplies to both the source and the data, which are often though of together by programmers. I'm pretty sure that the GPL was intended to cover the whole thing. Therefore if you are unable to ask for

Re: [debian-ntp] Bug#328200: Problems with ntp

2005-09-18 Thread Joe Smith
The UCB advertising clause has been rescinded by the copyright owner. See this authorization. ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change The advertising clause is no longer required and is deleted. With all of the usual cautions about IANAL I believe it is enough to

Re: [debian-ntp] Bug#328200: Problems with ntp

2005-09-18 Thread Joe Smith
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The file util/ansi2knr.c is also GPL. I'm pretty sure it's unused, but an easy reference in debian/copyright would cover it. This may be a problem if it is used, as: That

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-18 Thread Raul Miller
I think your points make a lot of sense, but you've made them citing case law valid in a few specific jurisdictions. A significant element of the concern that's been expressed has had to do with international law. In other words, while your points can diffuse some of the fear about this issue,

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-18 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Jennifer Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] In conclusion it seems that just because a venue/forum selection clause exists does not in-and-of-itself mean that it will hold up in court. Because there are many other factors (like minimum contacts, Long-Arm Statutes, foreseeability, superseding

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 10:28:23PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: I fully understand that _may_ and _shall_ are different terms however, and I will check on this, but I am pretty sure _may_ in this instance is indicating _required._ Again I need to confer with someone to see if licensing

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-18 Thread Jennifer Brown
From: Steve Langasek [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bearing in mind also that people don't generally put clauses in their licenses which they believe *can't* be used to their advantage. As I understand it choice of venue clauses are standard boiler plate language in agreements regardless of

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 07:59:14PM -0400, Jennifer Brown wrote: From: Steve Langasek [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bearing in mind also that people don't generally put clauses in their licenses which they believe *can't* be used to their advantage. As I understand it choice of venue clauses

Freeness of licence for wwwcount?

2005-09-18 Thread Andrew Pollock
Hi, The package wwwcount used to be in non-free, and has been subsequently removed as it was orphaned. I've just had a read of the licence[1], and I can't actually see anything terribly wrong with it. Can someone with more licensing-fu than me please tell me what's wrong with it? I wouldn't

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-18 Thread Jennifer Brown
From: Steve Langasek [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, sure; I don't think irrelevant boilerplate is a *good* thing to have in licenses, however. I suppose a lawyer would argue what is irrelevant at the moment may be very relevant at a later time...good or ill it is safer to hedge than not,

Re: Freeness of licence for wwwcount?

2005-09-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 12:47:59PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: The package wwwcount used to be in non-free, and has been subsequently removed as it was orphaned. I've just had a read of the licence[1], and I can't actually see anything terribly wrong with it. Can someone with more