Re: CDDL

2006-12-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Sun's Simon Phipps' talk at debconf 2006 few weeks ago. It was mentioned that the choice of venue was useless and would be removed from CDDL, thus making CDDL DSFG-compliant. There is no consensus that choice of venue clauses are not DSFG-compliant, anyway. --

Re: [Re]distribution of disk images

2006-12-02 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes * Ottavio Caruso: I'd like to post some Debian disk images, created from original Debian packages, to some sites via http or bittorrent. What legal obligations have I or the hosting site? If the packages are all from the

Re: [Re]distribution of disk images

2006-12-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 14:40:39 + Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes [...] My understanding of the GPL is that you must make the sources available, on your server. WRONG (imho). *IF* Ottavio is a private individual, then he

Re: [Re]distribution of disk images

2006-12-02 Thread Ottavio Caruso
Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes * Ottavio Caruso: I'd like to post some Debian disk images, created from original Debian packages, to some sites via http or bittorrent. What legal obligations have I or the hosting site?

Sun has an ombudsman

2006-12-02 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, I saw the swift reaction on bug #276302: [Sun License for JavaCC] which has been an issue for years (upstream claims it is free software under a modern bsd license, but some files had additional restriction). Getting a real answer, an acknowledgment that this is a problem with regard to the

NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-02 Thread Tom Marble
Marco d'Itri wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Sun's Simon Phipps' talk at debconf 2006 few weeks ago. It was mentioned that the choice of venue was useless and would be removed from CDDL, thus making CDDL DSFG-compliant. There is no consensus that choice of venue clauses are not

Re: NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-02 Thread Jérôme Marant
Le samedi 02 décembre 2006 18:18, Tom Marble a écrit : Marco d'Itri wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Sun's Simon Phipps' talk at debconf 2006 few weeks ago. It was mentioned that the choice of venue was useless and would be removed from CDDL, thus making CDDL DSFG-compliant.

Re: NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-02 Thread Mark Wielaard
Tom Marble Tom.Marble at Sun.COM writes: Until very, very recently this hasn't even been possible as we are fully aware that NetBeans has had various non-free dependencies (which would have blocked it's inclusion in main). Thus the primary rationale for liberating javac and JavaHelp as part

Re: NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 02 décembre 2006 à 11:18 -0600, Tom Marble a écrit : Why is this important? Because Sun has several software projects that are licensed under CDDL that we would really, really like accepted into Debian. The key example is our NetBeans IDE. The purpose of packaging NetBeans for

Re: NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-02 Thread Tom Marble
Josselin Mouette wrote: Please note that we don't accept software in Debian just because it is useful, but also because it is free. Understood. That said, I agree with some of the arguments given about the choice-of-venue clause. It is a bad clause, but I don't think it makes a piece of