Re: Bug#251983: libcwd: QPL license is non-free; package should not be in main

2004-06-05 Thread Nathanael Nerode
posted mailed Carlo Wood wrote: On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 10:15:26PM -0400, Walter Landry wrote: As for 6c, I am convinced by the arguments in http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/03/msg00626.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/03/msg00626.html which render its

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Nathanael Nerode
MJ Ray wrote: On 2004-06-04 11:43:45 +0100 Matthieu Delahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I just want to know if there is a list of common license for documentation that are definitively known to be DFSG free. I'm not sure about definitive, but generally most DFSG-free licences

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Måns Rullgård wrote: MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2004-06-04 11:43:45 +0100 Matthieu Delahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I just want to know if there is a list of common license for documentation that are definitively known to be DFSG free. I'm not sure about definitive,

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Nathanael Nerode
posted mailed Matthieu Delahaye wrote: Hi, I'm currently working on a correct debianisation of uC++ [1] with their author. They already provide debian packages but they are not 100% respecting Debian policies. The author wrote a consistent manual for this software [2]. Currently the

Re: Bug#251983: libcwd: QPL license is non-free; package should not be in main

2004-06-05 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 01:38:26AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: If this is agreed upon by everyone - then it makes sense to talk about the choice of venue versus choise of law thing. Provided that libcwd WILL be included in Debian, I am willing to change the wording of the last sentence

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Josh Triplett wrote: MJ Ray wrote: Related, is the following licence DFSG-free: I grant permission to you to do any act with my work. Please ask me to link to mirrors. Please link to this site and credit the contributors. No warranty offered and no liability accepted. Please link to

Re: You can't get a copy unless you accept the GPL [was: Re: libkrb53 - odd license term]

2004-06-05 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 01:09:00PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: I'll have to retract my assertation that one has to accept the GPL before downloading a work covered by it. In most jurisdictions that I know of, people by default have the right to create copies of most copyrighted works for

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Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Måns Rullgård
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Måns Rullgård wrote: MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2004-06-04 11:43:45 +0100 Matthieu Delahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I just want to know if there is a list of common license for documentation that are definitively known to be

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Lewis Jardine
Måns Rullgård wrote: Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Måns Rullgård wrote: Wordings like please don't seem to carry much legal value, so I suppose it might even be GPL compatible, though I guess some would frown upon the request for credit. Nobody here would do so, just so you

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Måns Rullgård
Lewis Jardine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Måns Rullgård wrote: Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Måns Rullgård wrote: Wordings like please don't seem to carry much legal value, so I suppose it might even be GPL compatible, though I guess some would frown upon the request for credit.

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-06-05 09:49:38 +0100 Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that what the fuss about the obnoxious advertising clause of the old BSD (and new XF86) licence is all about? No, they require specific advertising as a condition of permission. A simple disjunct polite request for any

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 10:49:38AM +0200, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: Wordings like please don't seem to carry much legal value, so I suppose it might even be GPL compatible, though I guess some would frown upon the request for credit. Nobody here would do so, just so you know. :-) Isn't

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-06-05 06:49:19 +0100 Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this license is actually legally nearly equivalent to giving the work to the public domain. I believe that is the intention. For some reason, I can find very little information on public domain grants in England

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Måns Rullgård
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 10:49:38AM +0200, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: Wordings like please don't seem to carry much legal value, so I suppose it might even be GPL compatible, though I guess some would frown upon the request for credit. Nobody here

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 09:16:07PM +0200, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 10:49:38AM +0200, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: Wordings like please don't seem to carry much legal value, so I suppose it might even be GPL compatible, though I guess

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 09:16:07PM +0200, Måns Rullgård wrote: Isn't that what the fuss about the obnoxious advertising clause of the old BSD (and new XF86) licence is all about? No. That is almost, but not quite, entirely irrelevant to the issues with those licenses. I thought the

XMMS in main?

2004-06-05 Thread Jerry Haltom
I am curious what the current status of the XMMS patent situation means for Debian. I can find the following conversation that suggests XMMS should be moved to non-free... and after examination I agree. Why then is XMMS still in main? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/09/msg00123.html

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 08:23:12PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: I thought the advertising clause was just about the only restriction in those licenses, the problem being that the GPL doesn't allow extra restrictions. That's the not quite part. It's almost entirely irrelevant because

Re: XMMS in main?

2004-06-05 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 02:22:46PM -0500, Jerry Haltom wrote: I am curious what the current status of the XMMS patent situation means for Debian. I can find the following conversation that suggests XMMS should be moved to non-free... and after examination I agree. Why then is XMMS still in

Re: XMMS in main?

2004-06-05 Thread Måns Rullgård
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 02:22:46PM -0500, Jerry Haltom wrote: I am curious what the current status of the XMMS patent situation means for Debian. I can find the following conversation that suggests XMMS should be moved to non-free... and after

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 04:42:37PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 08:23:12PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: I thought the advertising clause was just about the only restriction in those licenses, the problem being that the GPL doesn't allow extra restrictions.

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-05 Thread Josh Triplett
Lewis Jardine wrote: Josh Triplett wrote: MJ Ray wrote: Related, is the following licence DFSG-free: I grant permission to you to do any act with my work. Please ask me to link to mirrors. Please link to this site and credit the contributors. No warranty offered and no liability

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