Copyleft font licensing

2004-12-16 Thread Florian Weimer
I've been asked for advice regarding copyleft (GPL-like) font licensing. Without special exceptions, the GPL is not a suitable license for fonts because it is common practice to embed fonts (or subsets of fonts) into PDF documents (and other document formats). In this scenario, the GPL would

Re: Copyleft font licensing

2004-12-16 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 11:20:06AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: I've been asked for advice regarding copyleft (GPL-like) font licensing. Without special exceptions, the GPL is not a suitable license for fonts because it is common practice to embed fonts (or subsets of fonts) into PDF

Re: LCC and blobs

2004-12-16 Thread Martin Waitz
hoi :) On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 05:49:26PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: If the driver has to be able to open the file and read the blob so it can send it to the device, there's a clear relationship and dependency between the driver and the blob: if you don't have a copy of the blob, the driver

Re: Copyleft font licensing

2004-12-16 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 11:20:06AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Without special exceptions, the GPL is not a suitable license for fonts because it is common practice to embed fonts (or subsets of fonts) into PDF documents (and other document formats). In this scenario, the GPL would

Re: Copyleft font licensing

2004-12-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Raul Miller: Why would subsetting be a problem? I don't see anything in the GPL which requires source for things which have been left out of the program being required. The subsetted font is not the preferred form of doing modifications to the font. Anyway, this isn't the case I'm really

Re: Copyleft font licensing

2004-12-16 Thread Raul Miller
Why would subsetting be a problem? I don't see anything in the GPL which requires source for things which have been left out of the program being required. On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 04:53:02PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: The subsetted font is not the preferred form of doing modifications

Re: Copyleft font licensing

2004-12-16 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 11:20:06AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Maybe fonts could be licensed under the GPL plus the following exception? | As a special exception, if a document file embeds Type 1, TrueType, | OpenType or bitmap fonts derived from this source code, these fonts | do not by

Re: d-fsl - German Free Software License

2004-12-16 Thread Josh Triplett
In addition to the issues raised by others, I'd like to point out the following: Public/publicly: Not solely directed towards a certain group of people who have a personal connection to each other or are associated through their affiliation with a legal person or public organisation.

Re: What do you guys think about #244276?

2004-12-16 Thread Eitan Gurari
Eitan Gurari writes: [...] In other word, does the DFSG allows such thing? I think so in letter, especially given the LPPL's definitions, but it feels bad to obstruct people wanting to adapt the software to their needs. It would be good if Eitan could mark

Re: LCC and blobs

2004-12-16 Thread Peter Van Eynde
Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: No; the hardware is damaged. No driver can drive that. The driver you have is a driver for Foomatic Quxer cards. You don't have a Foomatix Quxer; you have a broken pile of junk. So here you argue that because the firmware is gone the hardware is broken, correct?

Re: LCC and blobs

2004-12-16 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 02:23:54PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote: I have a PCMCIA card that lost its flash memory. So suddenly its driver became non-free? Only if all such cards have lost their flash memory, which is improbable. As long as some cards exist with a working flash, the driver is useful

Re: LCC and blobs

2004-12-16 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: No; the hardware is damaged. No driver can drive that. The driver you have is a driver for Foomatic Quxer cards. You don't have a Foomatix Quxer; you have a broken pile of junk. So here you argue that because the

Re: LCC and blobs

2004-12-16 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 09:20:14PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: No; the hardware is damaged. No driver can drive that. The driver you have is a driver for Foomatic Quxer cards. You don't have a Foomatix

Re: LCC and blobs

2004-12-16 Thread Raul Miller
[just some minor additions.] On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 09:20:14PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: No, I argue that because you've pried chips off the board, the hardware is broken. On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 09:39:59PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: Er, no. Flash can be overwritten with