Joel Aelwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 11:41:41PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote:
>> Joel Aelwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > The user has T installed, and types "apt-get install noteclipse". Since
>>
>> Does this also answer the case of Debian CDs?
>
> It an
Joel Aelwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 03:15:23AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote:
>>
>> I think most of those are just aggregation on a medium of
>> distribution. Only the tree of dependencies has to be checked.
>
> So what you're saying is that "Depends: java2-runt
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 07:43:08PM -0500, Walter Landry wrote:
> But none in Debian main. People seem to be missing the point, so I
> will repeat: I am not saying that Eclipse is not distributable, just
> that it can't go into main.
That's easy to say. It's much harder to back up.
The distincti
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > [3] Debian dependencies. [The GPL doesn't seem to have any requirements
> > > in this area.]
>
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 09:06:31PM -0500, Walter Landry wrote:
> > Actually, it does. The GPL says (with some parts elided)
> >
> > If sections are sep
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:27:08 +0100, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:53:58 -0800 Michael K. Edwards wrote:
>
> > (don't use Google Search in the same tab as your GMail session!)
>
> Even better: don't use GMail at all, it has many privacy issues!
It's free-as-
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:04:09 -0500, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> I think you're confusing EULA with Copyright License.
>
> With copyright, the copyright holder grants license to the publisher
> to make copies and that's usually the end of the story. There are
> exceptions, of c
Walter Landry wrote:
> There is a difference between "simple as possible" and "undue burden".
> It may turn out that as simple as possible is still hard. If it were
> phrased something like
>
> To change the name, the Mozilla foundation will find it sufficient
> to change only the single insta
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 10:21:23PM -0500, Walter Landry wrote:
> > The kernel has an exemption. This has been pointed out more than
> > once.
>
> Irrelevant:
You seem to be missing the point. Someone pointed out that my
interpretation would require all p
Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The kernel has an exemption. This has been pointed out more than
> > once.
>
> OK, apache2 depends on Bash to function (/etc/init.d/apache2).
Bash is copyrighted by the FSF, who has already given permission
Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Walter Landry writes:
>
> > I meant linking as a shorthand for "incorporated as a section of a
> > whole work". Although Kaffe is actually objecting to being
> > distributed while "linked" to Eclipse.
>
> My point is that it has no clear basis for that
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 11:53:14PM -0500, Walter Landry wrote:
> > Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Here's my attempt at something which hopefully everyone can accept. I've
> > > tried to take into account all the excellent feedback over
Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In the extreme case we could ship a firefox package that depend on a
iceweasel package that contains the actual program while firefox is just
a dummy package that cause iceweasel to call itself firefox.
It would be natural to do th
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:53:58 -0800 Michael K. Edwards wrote:
> (don't use Google Search in the same tab as your GMail session!)
Even better: don't use GMail at all, it has many privacy issues!
--
Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.
..
Scripsit Jochen Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 12:36:05AM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
>> Yes. All authors who claim copyright in a source file should be
>> credited in the Debian copyright file, together with the exact
>> statement of license they issued.
> I tried to learn
Scripsit Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> If it happens that the Debian packaging make very hard to rename
> that package, we cannot blaim the Mozilla fundation for that and we
> should rather try to fix the packaging scripts.
It is true that we cannot blaim Mozilla for the Debian packaging
m
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 03:26:56PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote:
> (I, for one, have never bought the "magical exec() boundary" FSF argument;
> an API is a natural barrier which can be fairly straightforwardly tested
> and is covered by fairly well understood precedents already. *Especially*
> if that
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 03:15:23AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote:
>
> I think most of those are just aggregation on a medium of
> distribution. Only the tree of dependencies has to be checked.
So what you're saying is that "Depends: java2-runtime" is fine, but
"Depends: kaffe | java2-runtime
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 11:41:41PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote:
> Joel Aelwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The user has T installed, and types "apt-get install noteclipse". Since
>
> Does this also answer the case of Debian CDs?
It answers it in precisely the same fashion that it answ
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:51:22 -0500, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I still don't see how this sub-license construction satisfies the mandate
> > that "the recipient automatically receives a license from the original
> > licensor..."
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 01:08:57PM -0800, Michael K
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:51:22 -0500, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:55:47PM -0800, Michael K. Edwards wrote:
[snip]
> > A mandate without an implementation is subject to construction.
> > Construing agency to issue sublicenses leaves the contract between
> > dist
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:55:47PM -0800, Michael K. Edwards wrote:
> > > As I understand it, generally speaking, a contract has two
> > > parties -- offeror and offeree.
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:04:02 -0500, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ok. However, it's worth noting that these parti
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On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 11:18:30PM -0500, Michael Poole wrote:
> Andrew Suffield writes:
>
> > On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 08:14:32PM -0500, Michael Poole wrote:
> > > The rest of your post is either intentionally or incompetently
> > > misleading, since Java's idea of binary compatibility means that
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