Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-04-03 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 03:27 +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: So in summary, I think that 10 million is pure fiction. Does it really matter? We don't have access to the Creative Commons Web logs nor their referrer count for the Some Rights Reserved image (which is what they use for counting),

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-04-03 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 11:52 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: You're just wrong here. The fact that a license /can/ be interpreted in a way that would result in it being non-free does not mean that all material under that license should be considered non-free. I think that there is a spectrum of

Creative Commons license summary (version 4)

2005-04-03 Thread Evan Prodromou
I've made a new version of the Creative Commons license summary available here: http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.txt This version has the following changes since version 3: * Changed definition to criteria per Francesco

Creative Commons update and steps forward

2005-04-03 Thread Evan Prodromou
So, as most people here know, we've been contacted by Creative Commons to work out the issues over their licenses. I got email from Lawrence Lessig this week that their new general counsel, Mia Garlick, has been reviewing the debian-legal summary and will have a response for us by 8 April. We'd

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-04-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 08:31:20AM -0400, Evan Prodromou wrote: On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 03:27 +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: So in summary, I think that 10 million is pure fiction. Does it really matter? Not particularly, but there's no reason to spread the meme. I'm going to modify the cc

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-04-03 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 19:50 +0100, francois schnell wrote: As both a Debian-Ubuntu and Creative Commons (CC) supporter, I really hope that what you're doing here will work ! Me too! It looks like there are at least 10 millions works realeased under Creative Commons (according to Yahoo a

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-04-03 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 15:31 -0500, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: I haven't talked to Greg Pomerantz (SPI's lawyer) yet (he's on vacation) but I'd like to bring him in and probably onto the group that talks to Lessig. I think this sounds excellent but might be complicated. If you can pass along a

Re: Creative Commons update and steps forward

2005-04-03 Thread MJ Ray
Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following people have been proposed but haven't given a definitive yes or no: * MJ Ray I'm happy to be part of the group, but I am not sure what resources I am being asked to commit. So there will be a phone conference at some random time? I've

Re: Creative Commons update and steps forward

2005-04-03 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 18:40 +, MJ Ray wrote: I'm happy to be part of the group, but I am not sure what resources I am being asked to commit. So there will be a phone conference at some random time? I've no idea whether I can make that or not. Me either. Let's just say participation in

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Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-04-03 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 08:31:20 -0400 Evan Prodromou wrote: So in summary, I think that 10 million is pure fiction. Maybe or maybe not. I'm not saying that those data should be trusted, nor am I saying that they shouldn't. /According/ to that statistical results, we can say that... Does it

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-04-03 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:13:09 -0500 Glenn Maynard wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 12:43:35AM +, MJ Ray wrote: [...] No-one has posted a good definition of documentation which doesn't include some programs, for example. Agreed. ... and nobody has posted solid rationale explaining why

Re: Creative Commons update and steps forward

2005-04-03 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 11:51:56 -0400 Evan Prodromou wrote: [...] I got email from Lawrence Lessig this week that their new general counsel, Mia Garlick, has been reviewing the debian-legal summary and will have a response for us by 8 April. This is good news. We'd like to have a telephone

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-04-03 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
quote who=MJ Ray date=2005-03-31 20:01:27 + Benj. Mako Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=3DMJ Ray date=3D2005-03-30 22:15:15 + [...] I'm not sure about the situation when they just link to the ambiguous page which has had clarifications issued in obscure places by CC