RE: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread David Schwartz
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 01:18:11PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > > Well that's the problem. While copyright law does permit > > you to restrict > > the right to create derivative works, it doesn't permit you to > > restrict the > > distribution of lawfully created derivative works to licensees

RE: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread David Schwartz
> > The GPL applies to distributing a Linux binary I just made even > > though nobody ever chose to apply the GPL to the binary I just made > > only because the binary I just made is a derivative work of the > > Linux kernel, and the authors of that work chose to apply the GPL to > > it. > How ca

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Sunday 10 April 2005 01:18 pm, David Schwartz wrote: > You could do that be means of a contract, but I don't think you could it > do by means of a copyright license. The problem is that there is no right > to control the distribution of derivative works for you to withhold from > me. and

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 01:18:11PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > Well that's the problem. While copyright law does permit you to restrict > the right to create derivative works, it doesn't permit you to restrict the > distribution of lawfully created derivative works to licensees of the > or

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 03:10:43AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: >> Scripsit Humberto Massa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > After a *lot* of discussion, it was deliberated on d-l that >> > this is not that tricky at all, and that the "mere >> > aggregation" clau

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 04:56:50AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: >> Yes I would. Linking forms a tighter coupling than just placing the >> two parts side by side on a filesystem designed for general storage of >> byte streams. There is more to say about t

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> However, then you cannot legally copy it at all, because it contains >> part of the original author's copyrighted work and therefore can only >> legally be copied with the permission of the author. > The way you stop someone from distributing

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Humberto Massa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Henning Makholm wrote: > >Yes I would. Linking forms a tighter coupling than just > >placing the two parts side by side on a filesystem designed > >for general storage of byte streams. There is more to say > >about the situation than the naked fact

Re: Creative Commons license summary (version 4)

2005-04-10 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:29:58 -0300 Humberto Massa wrote: > my suggestion: > > You may not distribute, publicly display, publicly > perform, or publicly digitally perform the Work with > any technological measures that prevent the recipient > from exercising the rig

Re: Creative Commons update and steps forward

2005-04-10 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 11:51:56AM -0400, Evan Prodromou wrote: > I got email from Lawrence Lessig this week that their new general > counsel, Mia Garlick, has been reviewing the debian-legal summary and > will have a response for us by 8 April. So, another update: I got email from LL on Friday.

RE: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread David Schwartz
> On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 08:07:03PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > > The way you stop someone from distributing part of your > > work is by arguing > > that the work they are distributing is a derivative work of > > your work and > > they had no right to *make* it in the first place. See, fo

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-10 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 20:42:17 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> Every book in my book shelf is software? > > If you digitalize it, yes. AFAIK software only refers to programs, not to arbitrary sequences of bytes. An MP3 file isn't "software". Although it surely isn't hardware either. -- Giusepp