Re: STAR::Parser license quesiton

2005-04-12 Thread MJ Ray
Am I correct in presuming that paragraph #2 makes this only eligible for non-free? If not, what kind of license is this? I think that you are correct. -- MJR/slef http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-12 Thread Humberto Massa
Francesco Poli wrote: On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 01:47:19 +0100 Henning Makholm wrote: (I wonder what happens in jurisdications whose copyright law is not phrased in terms of derived - or that have several native words which are given different explicit meaning by the local law but would all need

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-12 Thread Humberto Massa
David Schwartz wrote: David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you buy a W*nd*ws install CD, you can create a derived work, e.g. an image of your installation, under the fair use rights (IANAL). Can you distribute that image freely? I would say that if not for the EULA, you could transfer

RE: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-12 Thread Bodo Eggert
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, David Schwartz wrote: If you buy a W*nd*ws install CD, you can create a derived work, e.g. an image of your installation, under the fair use rights (IANAL). Can you distribute that image freely? I would say that if not for the EULA, you could transfer

RE: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-12 Thread David Schwartz
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 09:44:29AM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: I would say that if not for the EULA, you could transfer ownership of the image to someone else. And if you legally acquired two copies of Windows, you could install both of them and transfer them. Otherwise, you could

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-12 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:01:15PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: Would you agree that compiling and linking a program that uses a library creates a derivative work of that library? No, I would not. Creating a derivative work requires creativity, and a linker is not creative. The

RE: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-12 Thread David Schwartz
The EULA is irrelevant in germany and in many parts of the USA. Really? I was under the impression EULA's were routinely upheld in the USA. If you have any references for that, I'd love to hear them. http://www.freibrunlaw.com/articles/articl22.htm This wasn't a copyright

Re: pre-ITP advice?

2005-04-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:04:11 +0800 Paul Wise wrote: Thanks for the comments everyone. I'll get this sorted asap and send an ITP in the next week or two. Wonderful! Congratulations for how you managed to persuade upstream to free his code! :) -- :-( This Universe is buggy! Where's the

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:43:20 -0400 Raul Miller wrote: [...] On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:21:40AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] In Italian author's right law (legge sul diritto d'autore), there is no use of or definition for the term derivative work, AFAICS. The law speaks about

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-12 Thread Dave Hornford
Francesco Poli wrote: I think it is: Italy *is* a member of the Berne Convention and consequently cannot have an author's right law that differs too much from other ones in the Berne Convention area (AFAIK)... Italy signed Berne in 1887, and became a party to Berne 1971 in 1979. I would expect

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-12 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 03:45:43PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: This wasn't a copyright case. The court only refused to uphold the agreement because there was no oppurtunity to review the agreement before purchase. So it certainly wouldn't apply to a click-through type agreement.

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-12 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:57:29AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: The law talks about collective works and derivative works, and to a casual reader it appears as though collective works are in some way different from derivative works. Why? Are collective works and derivative works the