Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-08 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:13:49PM -0700, Sean Kellogg wrote: No argument from me... but it is the system we've got here in the States and FOSS developers should plan accordingly, just as is expected of anyone else who enters into the world of copyrights. But that's just the problem--as far

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-08 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/7/05, Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not so much projects that are actually around for 35 years. Rather, if you maintain a project for, say, three or four years, I reuse large chunks of it in my own project, and my project outlives yours. Decades later, you (or your heirs)

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-08 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:52:38PM -0700, Raul Miller wrote: You seem to be trying to talk about this in an impartial manner, but as long as you talk in terms of minimizing all obstacles you're not doing so. The GPL deliberately places obstacles to code reuse: it disallows reuse by projects

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-08 Thread Michael K. Edwards
To be precise, here is the relevant text from 17 USC 203: (a) Conditions for Termination. In the case of any work other than a work made for hire, the exclusive or nonexclusive grant of a transfer or license of copyright or of any right under a copyright, executed by the author on or after

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-08 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/7/05, Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GPL deliberately places obstacles to code reuse: it disallows reuse by projects that don't release every bit of linked code (more or less) under a GPL-compatible license, in the hope of increasing code reuse in the long term. I believe

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-08 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:09:28AM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote: On 6/7/05, Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not so much projects that are actually around for 35 years. Rather, if you maintain a project for, say, three or four years, I reuse large chunks of it in my own

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-08 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/8/05, Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I integrate your MP3 decoding library into my media playing software. The author of the MP3 decoding source code is very clear: you. I can only reuse that library due to the license granted to it. That license is revoked. I can no longer

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-08 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/8/05, Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if your claims are true, it would still require going to court to prove, and until somebody successfully does that, very few people are going to go against the FSF's claims. So, as a matter of actual practice, my statement stands.

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-08 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:02:15AM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote: On 6/8/05, Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I integrate your MP3 decoding library into my media playing software. The author of the MP3 decoding source code is very clear: you. I can only reuse that library due to

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-08 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Wednesday 08 June 2005 05:57 am, Michael K. Edwards wrote: On 6/8/05, Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Published interface? Again, integrate into my software, not link against a published interface. Copy code directly into my program, and allow the works to merge and integrate.

Re: rfc non freeness - could a summary of the issue be made ?

2005-06-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 02:13:31AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Alban Browaeys wrote: Is there a consensus about what make it non free Yes. They don't give you permission to make a new document, derived from an RFC but renamed and describing a different standard. (Unless you submit it

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-08 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/8/05, Sean Kellogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 08 June 2005 05:57 am, Michael K. Edwards wrote: If you truly wish to do so, you may strip your heirs, in your last will and testament, of statutory termination rights, by the simple expedient of ratifying an existing assignment

Re: New 'Public Domain' Licence

2005-06-08 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 6/8/05, Sean Kellogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This section is not referring to transferring termination rights by will, it is referring to copyright assignment by will. So, if I assign you my copyright in FOO via a will, then the assignment is not subject to termination. However, it