Re: Re: A question about converting code to another programminglanguage

2005-07-29 Thread Joe Smith
WARNINGS: IANAL TINLA What about copyright to the translation when using f2c, is it the authors of the f2c code? In this case, unless f2c does things like replace certain fortran constructs with chunks of code large enough to be copyrightable, there is no copyright on the change. AFAICT the n

Re: LGPL module linked with a GPL lib

2005-07-29 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/29/05, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In other words, "All Rights Reserved"... :-( I did say that I would be happy to give you advance permission to circulate a reasonable number of copies privately, which would leave me with no recourse against you unless you set out to misappr

Re: LGPL module linked with a GPL lib

2005-07-29 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/29/05, Ken Arromdee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While that's true, the right of users to link the software in private isn't > a personal-use safe harbor--it's explicitly allowed by the GPL. > > If the GPL lets the user do it, it isn't infringement at all. You can't > have contributory infri

Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG

2005-07-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 15:58:36 +0100 Andrew Suffield wrote: > > Yes, I think it's time to propose a GR to do a s/program/work/ in > > the DFSG. Since IANADD, I cannot propose GRs, but I hope that some > > DDs will help. > > It's not quite that simple; you can't just change that bit alone. I'm > w

Re: LGPL module linked with a GPL lib

2005-07-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:06:58 -0700 Michael K. Edwards wrote: > On 7/28/05, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What do you mean "freely available"? > > Should I request a copy, which license would you send it under? > > None whatsoever. :-) Just like sending you a paper copy in the ma

Re: LGPL module linked with a GPL lib

2005-07-29 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Michael K. Edwards wrote: > > But that doesn't apply in the case of automatic systems for users to do the > > link. The GPL allows users to do what they want privately, so the users > > aren't performing infringing acts themselves. > While Andrew's parallel to Grokster is IMHO

Re: LGPL module linked with a GPL lib

2005-07-29 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 08:04:40AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: > Andrew Suffield writes: > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 02:42:35PM -0300, Humberto Massa Guimar?es wrote: > >> Static linking can *not* create a derived work, because it is an > >> automatic process. Poster case: is hello, generated fr

Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG

2005-07-29 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 11:47:58PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:00:29 +0100 Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > Florian Weimer wrote: > [...] > > >The GR did not change the wording of the DFSG at all. However, it's > > >clear that a significant shift took place in SC interpretati

Re: LGPL module linked with a GPL lib

2005-07-29 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 09:19:15AM -0700, Ken Arromdee wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > Anyway, the person who "recombines" the "film" and "track", in the > > > case of dynamic linking, is the *USER*, in the process of using the > > > program, and copyrights protection do

Re: Any progress on Debian logos?

2005-07-29 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-27 22:13]: > In this thread[1], the previous DPL (Martin Michlmayr) stated that the > issue was worked on. > But I got no more news since that time. I told the new DPL back in April what needs to be done. He (or, really, anyone) just needs to get an S