Re: Finjan NG5000 Web Proxy

2005-11-23 Thread Andrew Donnellan
So far: no response. Has anyone else had any luck getting info from them? andrew On 11/10/05, Andrew Donnellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll put any response on-list. > > Also, yes, I have seen GPL Violations. I will contact them if finjan > doesn't respond. > > Andrew > > On 11/10/05, Arnou

Re: Clarification regarding PHP License and DFSG status

2005-11-23 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:05:37 +0100 Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > I'll quote it entirely for future reference. My comments follow. > > > The PHP License, version 3.01 > Copyright (c) 1999 - 2005 The PHP Group. All rights reserv

Re: Clarification regarding PHP License and DFSG status

2005-11-23 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:37:10 + MJ Ray wrote: [...] > For now, I stand by my view: PHP under this licence follows > the DFSG, but it's inappropriate for software other than PHP > itself, including much of PEAR. I don't agree. It seems that the PHP license still suffers from the issues that wer

Re: Clarification regarding PHP License and DFSG status

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 03:08:24PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * MJ Ray: > > > Do you think that this licence does not require a developer > > of a modified package (other than PHP) to lie by saying > > "This product includes PHP software"? > > Perhaps the PHP folks subscribe to the view that

Re: Clarification regarding PHP License and DFSG status

2005-11-23 Thread Måns Rullgård
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * MJ Ray: > >> Do you think that this licence does not require a developer >> of a modified package (other than PHP) to lie by saying >> "This product includes PHP software"? > > Perhaps the PHP folks subscribe to the view that PHP scripts are > derivat

Re: Clarification regarding PHP License and DFSG status

2005-11-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* MJ Ray: > Do you think that this licence does not require a developer > of a modified package (other than PHP) to lie by saying > "This product includes PHP software"? Perhaps the PHP folks subscribe to the view that PHP scripts are derivative works of PHP. Then it wouldn't be lying, would it?

Re: Clarification regarding PHP License and DFSG status

2005-11-23 Thread MJ Ray
Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > They are minor but required and enough to fix the legal problems. > This license is now suitable for other software than php. > I'm no lawyer, I only ask some I know and got an OK. I'm not sure whether making people lie is a legal problem, but I feel it's wrong. That's

Re: Clarification regarding PHP License and DFSG status

2005-11-23 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > They are minor but required and enough to fix the legal problems. > This license is now suitable for other software than php. I disagree. It still requires that non-PHP software lie about its content: | 6. Redistributions of any form whatsoever must retain t

Re: Clarification regarding PHP License and DFSG status

2005-11-23 Thread Pierre
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:40:00 + <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pierre wrote: > > Rasmus just commited the PHP License 3.01 > > http://cvs.php.net/co.php/php-src/LICENSE?r=1.24 > > I think the problems are solved in this new version. > > > > Please review it and let us know that everything is fine

Re: Clarification regarding PHP License and DFSG status

2005-11-23 Thread mjr
Pierre wrote: > Rasmus just commited the PHP License 3.01 > http://cvs.php.net/co.php/php-src/LICENSE?r=1.24 > I think the problems are solved in this new version. > > Please review it and let us know that everything is fine. It was a pain > to get that changed but it is done. [Cc'd to Pierre beca

Re: Debtags facet for classification non-free packages

2005-11-23 Thread MJ Ray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Enrice Zini suggested more elegant system on: > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debtags-devel/2005-November/001029.html This is better, but misses quite a few common cases. OTTOMH, there are also restrictions on distributing adapted versions, making private changes, ar