Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-22 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Breaking new. Barnes Thornburg LLP on the GPL (Wallace v IBM et al): - Although it is not clear how it is relevant to whether the per se or rule of reason analysis would apply, Plaintiff also argues that the GPL purports to defeat the requirements of contractual privity and thus evade

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-22 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Barnes Thornburg LLP on price: --- Plaintiff's argument that an agreement to license any derivative works at no charge is somehow a minimum re-sale price is untenable given that the provision does not set a price for licenses at all, but rather provides that there shall be no price for

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-22 Thread olive
Alexander Terekhov wrote: On 2/15/06, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 10:26:10AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 04:47:32PM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: On 2/14/06, John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-22 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/22/06, olive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [... Not a Contract ...] I do not see why you object to this theory. Go ask Barnes Thornburg LLP. [O]ne of the Midwest's largest law firms says that The GPL, like the shrinkwrap license in ProCD, is a license applicable to anyone who receives its

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-22 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/22/06, Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barnes Thornburg LLP on price: --- Plaintiff's argument that an agreement to license any derivative works at no charge is somehow a minimum re-sale price is untenable given that the provision does not set a price for licenses at

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-22 Thread olive
Alexander Terekhov wrote: On 2/22/06, olive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [... Not a Contract ...] I do not see why you object to this theory. Go ask Barnes Thornburg LLP. [O]ne of the Midwest's largest law firms says that The GPL, like the shrinkwrap license in ProCD, is a license

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-22 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Barnes Thornburg LLP on conspiracy. -- Finally, the Response confirms that there is no alleged conspiracy, as the GPL is allegedly public by its nature with hundreds and potentially an unlimited number of programmers using the program. (Response at 3.) The allegations support no more than a

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-22 Thread Michael Poole
debian-legal is not your personal blog. Stop spamming it with off-topic troll postings already. If you want to rant or rave about nutcases tilting at windmills, do it in an appropriate place. Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-22 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/22/06, olive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The GPL give you *more* permissions than copyright law; so a contract is not needed because the forbidden things by the GPL are forbidden by copyright law anyway. If you break the GPL you just can get sued because you have distributed/modified

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-22 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Moglen's underling Fontana in action. http://www.ciocentral.com/article/Questions+Still+Abound+over+GPL+3+/171577_1.aspx On the DRM front, there is little the GPL can do to fix this, and this is a matter that needs to be taken up by the legislature, Fontana said. But, that being said,

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-22 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Page 2 exhibit managed to escape. Bringing it back. On 2/22/06, Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moglen's underling Fontana in action. http://www.ciocentral.com/article/Questions+Still+Abound+over+GPL+3+/171577_1.aspx On the DRM front, there is little the GPL can do to

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-22 Thread Stephen Gran
Olive, this guy is just a troll. Feeding him just seems to make him waste more of Debian's bandwidth and my spambox. My advice is to leave him be. -- - | ,''`.Stephen Gran | | : :' :

Re: Missing documentation for autoconf

2006-02-22 Thread MJ Ray
Simon Huerlimann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I'll advice guys I introduced to Debian to also write such a mail once they get into similar situations, though. Unless they can add some new argument as to why a manual under an FDL-1.2 adware licence actually follows the DFSG, simply writing

Re: Missing documentation for autoconf

2006-02-22 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
olive wrote: The social contract say also We will never make the system require the use of a non-free component. It is reasonable to think that the use of Debian requires the GFDL documentation. Even assuming the above it is reasonable is true[0], the following does not hold: If Debian

Re: portaudio in Debian, license updates?

2006-02-22 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, However, portaudio looks non-free to me. http://www.portaudio.com/license.html: * Any person wishing to distribute modifications to the Software is requested to send the modifications to the original developer so that they can be incorporated into the canonical version. Sounds

Re: A new practical problem with invariant sections?

2006-02-22 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 06:26:27PM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Adam McKenna wrote: I don't know of any device that rejects files of a particular encoding. Can you give an example of such a device? My portable music player barfs pretty badly on anything that isn't ASCII. But