Re: Free documents using non-free fonts - can they be in main?

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Mar 5, 2006, at 03:06, Marco d'Itri wrote: The characters in the document are not subject to copyright. Yes, in the U.S. if all alleged computer programness of the font is gone and the glyphs are bitmapped or on paper but is that also true of embedded hinted fonts in PDF? (I thought

Re: Free documents using non-free fonts - can they be in main?

2006-03-05 Thread Frank Küster
Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, from the user's standpoint it's not a just comment out the \usepackage line... Rather, it's a 1. comment out the \usepackage line 2. fix the whole document so that it adapts to the free fonts 3. check if the result is acceptable, otherwise

Re: Free documents using non-free fonts - can they be in main?

2006-03-05 Thread Frank Küster
Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 5, 2006, at 03:06, Marco d'Itri wrote: The characters in the document are not subject to copyright. Yes, in the U.S. if all alleged computer programness of the font is gone and the glyphs are bitmapped or on paper but is that also true of

Re: Free documents using non-free fonts - can they be in main?

2006-03-05 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:30:26 +0100 Frank Küster wrote: Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, from the user's standpoint it's not a just comment out the \usepackage line... Rather, it's a 1. comment out the \usepackage line 2. fix the whole document so that it adapts to

Re: [Portaudio] Re: portaudio in Debian, license updates?

2006-03-05 Thread Joe Smith
Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The web page (http://www.portaudio.com/license.html) has the following additional clauses; which should be included in Debian package to clarify: Plain English Interpretation of the License The following is a plain

Re: Free documents using non-free fonts - can they be in main?

2006-03-05 Thread Nathanael Nerode
I'm just going to note one important point about this whole thing. This is a main/contrib issue, *not* a main/non-free issue. Everyone agrees that the documents which use the non-free fonts are themselves free. The question is whether they depend on the non-free fonts. Suppose for the sake of

Re: Free documents using non-free fonts - can they be in main?

2006-03-05 Thread Frank Küster
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just going to note one important point about this whole thing. This is a main/contrib issue, *not* a main/non-free issue. Everyone agrees that the documents which use the non-free fonts are themselves free. The question is whether they depend on

Re: Free documents using non-free fonts - can they be in main?

2006-03-05 Thread Nathanael Nerode
(This is in reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED].Sorry about the thread-breakingthought I should reply to this quickly rather than waiting to get to a better computer.) Frank Kuester wrote: Are you sure? Isn't it the same as a program that contains in its sources a binary blob that's copied

Re: Free documents using non-free fonts - can they be in main?

2006-03-05 Thread olive
Marco d'Itri wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't see anything in the DFSG which would forbid it, so it looks free to me. With the note that the source files may need to be modified to allow being processed with the free fonts present in Debian, but this would not be a freeness issue. I

Re: Free documents using non-free fonts - can they be in main?

2006-03-05 Thread olive
By the way is it that difficult to the package maintener to regenerate the document using free fonts? (the script texi2dvi do that nearly magically without having worrying about LaTeX rerun, makeindex, etc...) For a texinfo file, it's of course easy. For many LaTeX package documentation