Re: GFDL'ed documents with Front Cover text

2006-03-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 02:09:02PM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: Frank said: assume a document licensed under GFDL, with no invariant sections (and ...) has a front cover text (like A GNU Manual) and a back cover text [...] What should the developers do in order to make it DFSG-free

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-26 Thread MJ Ray
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/25/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not clear to me that the GFDL prohibits DRM where a parallel distribution mechanism is guaranteed to be available. The copying to the DRM-controlled media seems expressly

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-26 Thread Raul Miller
On 3/26/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/25/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not clear to me that the GFDL prohibits DRM where a parallel distribution mechanism is guaranteed to be available. The

MPL license

2006-03-26 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hi Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? Looking at google I see a lot of Summary - non-free and Not really non-free mails. So, I have some packages in NEW that are MPL only licensed. Whats the current way to go? Reject, accept? (Hopefully not a check every package if it has , like

Re: MPL license

2006-03-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 04:21:31PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? Looking at google I see a lot of Summary - non-free and Not really non-free mails. It is indeed non-free. So, I have some packages in NEW that are MPL only

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-26 Thread Walter Landry
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/21/06, Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second off, you've not convinced me that the GFDL never allows the use of word format (I'll grant that such allowance would come with caveats about as strong as those necessary for your example).

Re: MPL license

2006-03-26 Thread Walter Landry
Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 04:21:31PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? Looking at google I see a lot of Summary - non-free and Not really non-free mails. It is indeed non-free. It is, in

Re: MPL license

2006-03-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 10:05:52AM -0800, Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 04:21:31PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? Looking at google I see a lot of

Re: MPL license

2006-03-26 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
O Domingo, 26 de Marzo de 2006 ás 20:57:35 +0200, Mike Hommey escribía: The GPL does require something similar. Not exactly. The GPL requires you to provide source alongside binary; when you stop offering the binary, you may stop offering the source. However, under the MPL, you must go on

Re: GFDL'ed documents with Front Cover text

2006-03-26 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 01:08:16AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 02:09:02PM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: This implies that a document with no invariant sections, but with one-sentence front- and back-cover sections does not meet the DFSG? Is that Debian's position?

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-26 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Raul Miller wrote: If we're going to go into the exact quote game: You may not use technical measures to obstruct or control the reading or further copying of the copies you make or distribute. ^^ [...] I

Re: GFDL'ed documents with Front Cover text

2006-03-26 Thread Jaakko Kangasharju
Steve M. Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example, GMP has Front-Cover Text A GNU Manual and Back-Cover Text You have freedom to copy and modify this GNU Manual, like GNU software and no invariant sections. Must I really throw this document out of Debian (BTS

Re: MPL license

2006-03-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:57:35 +0200 Mike Hommey wrote: On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 10:05:52AM -0800, Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] It is, in fact, not distributable as an executable by Debian. It requires keeping the source around for every binary for at least six months.

Re: better licence for fosdem, debconf, .., videos...

2006-03-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:02:53 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the other hand, kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386.deb by the Debian kernel team, based on the Linux kernel by Linus Torvalds and others seems to be accurate credit, doesn't it? It's an arguably accurate

Re: better licence for fosdem, debconf, .., videos...

2006-03-26 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could you please phrase what you would consider an accurate (non misleading) credit? kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386.deb by the Debian kernel team and others Start from a troublesome license and patch it hard so that it is `forced' to meet the DFSG? I don't regard

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-26 Thread MJ Ray
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/26/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/25/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The copying to the DRM-controlled media seems expressly prohibited. Only if these copies are are made available to people whose

Re: GFDL'ed documents with Front Cover text

2006-03-26 Thread MJ Ray
Steve M. Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have approached the GMP developers both on the GMP list and privately. It turns out that the copyright is assigned to FSF so they have no authority (or so they claim) to change the license. I was advised to contact FSF about it. Please ask them what