Re: MPL license

2006-03-27 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Walter Landry wrote: Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 04:21:31PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? Looking at google I see a lot of Summary - non-free and Not really non-free mails. It is indeed

Re: MPL license

2006-03-27 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? debian-legal is just a mailing list, so it cannot have a position about anything. My position is that the MPL does not violate the DFSG, but it's not obvious if Debian can satisfy the requirement of distributing non-current

Re: MPL license

2006-03-27 Thread Walter Landry
Damyan Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walter Landry wrote: Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 04:21:31PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? Looking at google I see a lot of Summary - non-free and

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-27 Thread Raul Miller
On 3/26/06, Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can give you a simple example, however, of a case where [with caveats] word format is suitable: some drawings could be saved in some word format if the version of word in question is widely available, Why does it matter whether the

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-27 Thread Raul Miller
On 3/26/06, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Raul Miller wrote: If we're going to go into the exact quote game: You may not use technical measures to obstruct or control the reading or further copying of the copies you make or distribute. [...] I think

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-27 Thread Raul Miller
On 3/26/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/26/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/25/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The copying to the DRM-controlled media seems expressly prohibited. Only if

Re: better licence for fosdem, debconf, .., videos...

2006-03-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:21:07 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could you please phrase what you would consider an accurate (non misleading) credit? kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386.deb by the Debian kernel team and others I'm really losing you here... :-( You are basically

The LGPL's GPL upgrade clause and or later

2006-03-27 Thread Josh Triplett
Useful piece of information for those concerned about using open-ended or later licensing on their software: the upgrade clause in the LGPL2.1, clause 3, allows the use of GPL version 2 or later: 3. You may opt to apply the terms of the ordinary GNU General Public License instead of this

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Raul Miller wrote: I find it hard to believe that this license has any relevance in the context of non-copyright issues (issues of use which have not been specifically enumerated by either copyright law or the license). That's an open question, and necessarily jurisdiction

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-27 Thread MJ Ray
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/26/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] The subject of this sentence is you. The subject of this sentence is not technical measures. The object of use is technical measures to obstruct or control the reading or

Debian packaging and (possible) Eterm license violations

2006-03-27 Thread Ed Hill
Hi folks, I'm an occasional Debian user and, while doing package reviews for Fedora Extras, stumbled into the Eterm mix-of-source-licenses situation described below. The following email was sent to the Debian Eterm maintainer. I'm forwarding it to this list because I've not (yet) received a

Re: Debian packaging and (possible) Eterm license violations

2006-03-27 Thread Michael Poole
Ed Hill writes: Hi folks, I'm an occasional Debian user and, while doing package reviews for Fedora Extras, stumbled into the Eterm mix-of-source-licenses situation described below. The following email was sent to the Debian Eterm maintainer. I'm forwarding it to this list because I've

Re: Debian packaging and (possible) Eterm license violations

2006-03-27 Thread Ed Hill
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 23:10 -0500, Michael Poole wrote: This kind of licensing conflict is a release-critical bug in the package under Debian Policy. The ideal solution for Debian is exactly what you suggested in the bug comments: work with the upstream maintainer to sort out license

Re: Debian packaging and (possible) Eterm license violations

2006-03-27 Thread Michael Poole
Ed Hill writes: On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 23:10 -0500, Michael Poole wrote: This kind of licensing conflict is a release-critical bug in the package under Debian Policy. The ideal solution for Debian is exactly what you suggested in the bug comments: work with the upstream maintainer to

Re: Debian packaging and (possible) Eterm license violations

2006-03-27 Thread Frank Küster
Ed Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm asking because the main upstream author (Michael Jennings) seems to think that the Fedora Guidelines (which are in some ways quite similar to the much-older DSC) are silly rules which discriminate against packages for no real reason: