Re: CDBS documentation

2006-05-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Peter Eisentraut: Marc Dequènes wrote: The documentation is released under the GPL and from my understanding the GPL requires that you keep the previous changelog entries. I see no such requirement. If this were in fact true, we'd have a billion license infringements all over the place.

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Michael Meskes
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:20:14AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a new license: the Operating System Distributor License for Java (DLJ)[2][3]. This license,

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread David Walluck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks to Fernando Lozano for bringing this to our attention over at the JPackage list. Some issues came up that I would like to discuss with the people here. You'll have to excuse me as I didn't even make it to (2f) before finding some problems with

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Brian M. Carlson
[For -legal people, the license is attached.] On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 11:01 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:20:14AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 11:01 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: Could someone please explain to me why paragraph 2(f) does not pose a problem? I couldn't find ANY discussion about the license on Debian legal which surprises me a little bit, but then maybe I just missed the relevant parts of the

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Michael Meskes
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:13:31PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: Did you read the accompanying FAQ? Question 12 addresses your concern. http://download.java.net/dlj/DLJ-FAQ-v1.1.txt I did, but I wasn't sure if that FAQ has any legal meaning. I have problems seeing that the FAQ answer fits with

Luz y Sabiduria

2006-05-17 Thread
Estimado señor: Me llamo Pedro Alonso y las pasadas Navidades se publicó mi primer libro “El Silencio de Dios - Historias de Luz y Sabiduría”. Este libro es una recopilación de 80 historias tipo cuentos o fábulas con moraleja, con un mensaje positivo. El libro es un reflejo de mi web. Si

Bug #323099 should not have been closed

2006-05-17 Thread Francesco Poli
reopen 323099 thanks. I don't agree that GR-2006-001 outcome makes this a non-bug. AFAICS from the bug log, it seems that wget documentation includes invariant sections: hence GR-2006-001 restates its non-freeness. P.S.: I'm Cc:ing debian-legal, please keep Cc:ing it when replying to the bug

UC license and debian

2006-05-17 Thread kris
We are releasing some software and would like to make sure it is compatible with debian. We have been told that this is the current license to use for UC produced works. http://www.ucop.edu/ott/permissn.html I searched the archives to no avail. I notice that it no longer includes the

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:01:26 +0200 Michael Meskes wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:20:14AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a new license: the Operating

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:02:34 + Brian M. Carlson wrote: [For -legal people, the license is attached.] Thanks. [...] Also, section 4 poses a major issue. If, for any reason, the Linux kernel doesn't do something that Java requires, then we are obligated to either fix it or inform

Re: UC license and debian

2006-05-17 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
kris wrote: We are releasing some software and would like to make sure it is compatible with debian. We have been told that this is the current license to use for UC produced works. http://www.ucop.edu/ott/permissn.html I searched the archives to no avail. I notice that it no longer

Re: UC license and debian

2006-05-17 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 01:24:50PM -0700, kris wrote: We are releasing some software and would like to make sure it is compatible with debian. We have been told that this is the current license to use for UC produced works. http://www.ucop.edu/ott/permissn.html I searched the archives

Re: Help Selecting License for Bacula Documentation

2006-05-17 Thread Kern Sibbald
Kern Sibbald wrote: Hello debian-legal, I'm forwarding, with permission, parts of a message from Kern Sibbald, author of Bacula and its manual. The current manual, which has a license listed at http://www.bacula.org/rel-manual/index.html, is not DFSG-free. However, Kern has indicated a

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 17 May 2006 22:56:06 +0100 Thiemo Seufer wrote: Francesco Poli wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:02:34 + Brian M. Carlson wrote: [For -legal people, the license is attached.] Thanks. [...] Also, section 4 poses a major issue. If, for any reason, the Linux kernel

OpenSAML

2006-05-17 Thread Russ Allbery
(Please cc me on replies, as I'm not subscribed to debian-legal. I think this discussion is likely to be sadly short, but let me know if I really need to subscribe for it.) Several of us at Stanford have been looking at what would be involved to package Shibboleth (an interinstitutional web

Re: Help Selecting License for Bacula Documentation

2006-05-17 Thread Josh Triplett
Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: Kern Sibbald wrote: John Goerzen wrote: I'm forwarding, with permission, parts of a message from Kern Sibbald, author of Bacula and its manual. The current manual, which has a license listed at http://www.bacula.org/rel-manual/index.html, is not DFSG-free.

Re: UC license and debian

2006-05-17 Thread kris
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 19:06 -0400, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: [[snipped]] No, it's not. It doesn't grant the right to be used in commercial products, and thus fails the DFSG. I guess you mean that it does allow commercial licensing and therefore is not compatible

Re: UC license and debian

2006-05-17 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
kris wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 19:06 -0400, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: [[snipped]] No, it's not. It doesn't grant the right to be used in commercial products, and thus fails the DFSG. I guess you mean that it does allow commercial licensing and

Re: UC license and debian

2006-05-17 Thread kris
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 21:11 -0400, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: [[snipped]] OK.. now I am really confused. No problem ;-). Let me try to help... Below is the relevant text. I read this as free for non-commercial use Yes. and non-free for commercial use. Correct. GNU GPL can't

Re: Bug#323099: Bug #323099 should not have been closed

2006-05-17 Thread Noèl Köthe
Am Mittwoch, den 17.05.2006, 19:04 +0200 schrieb Francesco Poli: I don't agree that GR-2006-001 outcome makes this a non-bug. AFAICS from the bug log, it seems that wget documentation includes invariant sections: hence GR-2006-001 restates its non-freeness. Don explain the problem of this

License of wget.texi: suggest removal of invariant sections

2006-05-17 Thread Don Armstrong
Summary: The issue with wget.texi is that the GNU GPL is an Invariant Section; since the GNU GPL cannot be modified anyway, this just forces gpl.texi to always be distributed with wget.texi, even when you're just distributing the manual. The solution is to change with the Invariant Sections