Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-23 Thread David Mattli
On 5/21/06, Max Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Max p.s. Software is not music. Software is not visual art. Software is a code, a literary work (and Berna Convention consider software as a literary work). So software patents are unlogicall. There are two prevaling views of software which

Re: Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk

2006-05-23 Thread MJ Ray
Arnaud Vandyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] MJ Ray a €crit : [...] A virtual package name is a functional label, not a product name. Java is the name of an island and a natural language too. I'm surprised if Sun can prevent use of a word in this way. A function that is used to call a runtime,

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, IANAL, but as far as I can see, as long as Sun has a valid reason to change their mind and is willing to compensate any losses caused by them changing their mind, they can do whatever they like. Well, but *that* I don't think is a worry.

Re: Distributor License for Java: External Commentary

2006-05-23 Thread Dalibor Topic
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 03:15:32PM +1200, Adam Warner wrote: Hi all, Commentary by Dalibor Topic: The license is, frankly, still pretty bad, and contains various nasty clauses: from the overly broad indemnification(i) part, which has nothing to do with Sun's JDK software, to the subsettig

Re: sharpmusique in Debian

2006-05-23 Thread Charles Fry
Is there any legal reason why sharpmusique is not in Debian, given that multiple .deb packages already exist? If you're going to ask about a license (which is what I assume you are doing), please include the license in question (unless it is in /usr/share/common-licenses). In this case,

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-23 Thread Max Brown
2006/5/23, David Mattli wrote: There are two prevaling views of software which I have seen. The view that software is the opposite of hardware, anything which is in binary format and the view that software is executable code. The former view is the most inclusive and the one (in my

Re: sharpmusique in Debian

2006-05-23 Thread Frank Küster
Charles Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/share/common-licenses). In this case, the license in question is the GNU General Public License, version 2. I see no legal reason why this is not in Debian. I do see a technical reason: no one wants to make packages, apparently, since the RFP in

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-23 Thread MJ Ray
Max Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] But the question is very easy: any lawyer knows there is a big difference between corpus mysthicum (the artwork/the code) and corpus mechanicum (the carrier/the file). The copyrightable work is only the artwork/the code! So, in your language, we require the same

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-23 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 22 May 2006 19:13:47 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote: Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Thie simplest solution in this case would be if Sun simply attached the FAQ as an addendum to the licence rather than stating it's not legally binding. Yeah. Not disagreeing

Re: Against DRM 2.0

2006-05-23 Thread Max Brown
2006/5/23, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry if that's butchery of a foreign language, but this list is usually in English. Ah ah! This is in english too (there are many universal juridical latin terms!): In copyright law this led to the distinction between the corpus mysticum (the work) and

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-23 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 06:14:51PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 04:18:44PM -0500, Anthony Towns wrote: Anyway, the background is that James Troup, Jeroen van Wolffelaar and myself examined the license before accepting it into non-free (which is three times the usual