Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:49:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: The answer to the question in the subject is simple: NO. Thankyou for your opinion. I note you seemed to neglect to mention that you're not a lawyer. So, do you have anything to

Re: compatibility of bsd and gpl

2006-10-18 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Matthew Wala wrote: And people can copypaste that code out of your project and reuse it elsewhere under the original (BSD) terms. Doesn't section 2b say that projects reusing BSD code from a GPL'd project have to be GPL'd? The GPL applies to the combination of the old BSD code and the newly

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 11:42:14PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:49:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: The answer to the question in the subject is simple: NO. Thankyou for your opinion. I note you seemed to

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 07:07:00PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: So what? Distributing GPL works *with* sources is also not clear of legal liability. Those liabilities occur in either case, so they're not particularly interesting to discuss.

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 07:07:00PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: So what? Distributing GPL works *with* sources is also not clear of legal liability. Those liabilities occur in either case, so

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 02:16:04AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: Regardless, that distribution in compliance with relevant licenses doesn't necessarily absolve you of all liabilities is well known, and not an issue I'm terribly intersted in discussing in the abstract. [And if for some reason

Re: Yahoo! DomainKeys license

2006-10-18 Thread Magnus Holmgren
I think I'll just give up on this and work on packaging ALT-N's libdkim and getting Exim to support it instead. Not much fun spending time on something that's already been superseded, especially if it's not going to be in Etch. The only reason was that Yahoo and some others still DK-sign, not

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-18 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Don Armstrong said: On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:49:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: The answer to the question in the subject is simple: NO. Thankyou for your opinion. I note you seemed to neglect to mention that

Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-10-18 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:56:02 -0400 Nathanael Nerode wrote: [...] OK. Let's declare victory and move on. Proposed statement: We believe that the draft CC-BY and CC-BY-SA licenses appear to be Free Licenses, so that most works licensed under them will probably satisfy the DFSG. Please

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-18 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:06:19 +0100 Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Don Armstrong said: [...] baring competent legal advice to the contrary,[1] distributing sourceless GPLed works is not clear of legal liability. Doing otherwise may put ourselves and our mirror operators in

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-18 Thread Michael Poole
Francesco Poli writes: What makes you think that every and each copyright holder acted in good faith when started to distribute firmware under the terms of the GNU GPL v2, while keeping the source code secret? Some copyright holder could be deliberately preparing a trap, in order to be able